Talks License?

[Eduard Sánchez]

Hello Stephen,

Well, I don't know if my words 1.5 years ago were not clear enough or
misinterpreted, but it wasn't Code Factory who decided not to use the
Nuance's technology in our software. Compared to competition, people will
clearly see that we are the ones who make it a point to give our customers
as many choices of TTS voices as possible: Fonix, Acapela, Loquendo, Nokia
built-in TTS, and others that support languages not covered by these TTS
providers.

Code Factory, however, kept it quiet and chose not to elaborate on the fact
that Nuance had banned us from using their technology, because we always
have the highest respect for any decisions (good and bad) that any of our
partners take.

However, we think it's rather unfair to see some people on mailing lists,
stating that Code Factory has decided not to allow its users to use the
Eloquence TTS as though it was our decision that led to the current
situation. We feel in cases like this, where the topic is brought up by
others and not by us, that we ought to step in and make it clear that it is
not true. We also believe it's time people should know that we have
approached Nuance, primarily because our customers asked us, regarding the
availability of Eloquence in our products, and so far, we have not received
any positive response. And this is true for our Symbian and Windows Mobile
product lines. As to why, people will need to ask Nuance, I suppose. 

I personally find it really unfair for the AT community that a company
decides to prevent thousands of users from having a choice, but hey that's
how business works.

But I said and as we have demonstrated time and again, Code Factory has been
always known for providing users with the widest range of options when it
comes to supported phones and Text-to-Speech engines available,
and we will continue to do so, and partner with any company who has anything
to offer that will provide a best experience for our customers.

Eduard 
CEO / Code Factory, S.L.


-----Mensaje original-----
De: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
[mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] En nombre de Stephen Giggar
Enviado el: viernes, 04 de enero de 2008 1:58
Para: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
Asunto: Re: Talks License?

I recall hearing way back when Code Factory decided to not carry Eloquence
because the Talks screen 
reader had it. Nothing about the license being pulled by Nuance. Just code
factory decided to no 
longer carry it being Talks had it.

At least that is what I seem to remember Eduard saying about it. But that
was well over 1.5 years 
ago and my mind may be playing games with me.

Signed: Stephen Giggar
sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
Skype: dr-phone.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0oxy at charter.net>
To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: Talks License?


> Actually, the fact that mobile speak no longer uses eloquence was not the
> fault of code factory, nuance pulled their license, probably because code
> factory competes with a nuance product.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Nicki Lehmann" <comanike at gmail.com>
> To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List"
<blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Talks License?
>
>
>> from a perspective of someone who has used both I think talks is better
> but
>> only because these days I love having the ability to surft the web. I was
>> also bitterly disappointed when mobile speak stopped having eloquence as
a
>> speach synth. it would be like saying which is better jaws or window
eyes,
>> depends what you expect from the screen reader and what you want it to
do.
>> Nicki
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "James Scholes" <jamesscholes at msn.com>
>> To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List"
> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: Talks License?
>>
>>
>> > In my experience, Talks is better than Mobile Speak, but this is
because
> I
>> > use Talks all of the time, so I am bound to think that Talks is better
> as
>> > it
>> > is what I am used to. However, I use Mobile Speak on an old 2nd
eddition
>> > phone, and I have to say that it has its good points, and its bad
> points,
>> > but so does Talks. So, what I am trying to say is that we could sit
here
>> > having a debate for hours on which screen reader is the best, but in
the
>> > end
>> > it depends on the user and what the user expects from a screen reader,
> or
>> > for that matter, anything in life.
>> >
>> >
>> > --------------------------------------------------
>> > From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmosen at mosen.org>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:56 PM
>> > To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
>> > <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>> > Subject: RE: Talk License?
>> >
>> >> The question was is it true,the answer is no.
>> >>
>> >> Jonathan
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>> >> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Bob
> Campbell
>> >> Sent: Thursday, 3 January 2008 12:52 p.m.
>> >> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
>> >> Subject: Re: Talk License?
>> >>
>> >> I'm confused   by your answer Jonathan.  The question was " Is it true
>> >> that
>> >> Talks is not as efficient for browsing the web as Mobile Speak is?"
>> >> You say" No it isn't since   on simbions Mobile Speak  doesn't support
>> >> any
>> >> browsing on third edition phones at all.
>> >> So Putting it another way,
>> >> Mobile Speak is inferior  and Talks must be better?
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmosen at mosen.org>
>> >> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
>> >> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 2:31 PM
>> >> Subject: RE: Talk License?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> No it isn't, since on Symbian, Mobile Speak doesn't support any
> browsing
>> >> on
>> >> third edition phones at all. Talks I think has done an outstanding job
>> >> with
>> >> their web support, with features like the ability to move by heading,
>> >> jump
>> >> to non-linked text etc.
>> >>
>> >> Jonathan
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>> >> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of
> TaraPrakash
>> >> Sent: Thursday, 3 January 2008 9:13 a.m.
>> >> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
>> >> Subject: Re: Talk License?
>> >>
>> >> Hi all.
>> >> Is it true that Talks is not as efficient for browsing the net as
>> >> Mobilespeak is?
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "Stephen Giggar" <sgiggar at sbcglobal.net>
>> >> To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List"
>> >> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 2:50 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: Talk License?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Fazil
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes you would need to buy a phone transfer license. You need to talk
> to
>> >>> a
>> >>> dealer for current pricing
>> >>> information.
>> >>>
>> >>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>> >>> sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
>> >>> Skype: dr-phone.
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >>> From: "Fazil M." <urdu786 at telus.net>
>> >>> To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List"
>> >>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:29 PM
>> >>> Subject: Talk License?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi.
>> >>>> I got my Talk License    back in 2004 for my Nokia3650.  This phone
> is
>> >>>> aging and has begun to have
>> >>>> the usual wear&tear and soon I should be looking for a replacement.
>> >>>> My question is, would I be needing a new Talk License for the new
>> >>>> phone?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ===================
>> >>>> Thanks!
>> >>>> ENQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU DO ALL DAY!
>> >>>>        Mentes quaerentes volunt scire quid in Hadei facias totum
> diem!
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