Comparison of Mobile Phone Markets

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

Jonathan,

Yes, some countries around the world including the UK, when purchasing a
branded phone to a carrier, you are locked to that carrier with the phone,
although a price can be paid to get it unlocked. 


Neil Barnfather
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-----Original Message-----
From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
[mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: 19 January 2008 04:25
To: 'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Comparison of Mobile Phone Markets

Hi Nicki, so does Australia lock the phones that the carriers subsidise? I
wasn't aware of this.

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
[mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Nicki Lehmann
Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2008 5:25 p.m.
To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
Subject: Re: Comparison of Mobile Phone Markets

exactly, I have always had unlocked phones as we call them here in
australia. we call it paying for them outright.
Nicki

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0oxy at charter.net>
To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: Comparison of Mobile Phone Markets


> That's one reason among many to go with unbranded phones, you may pay a 
> bit
> more for them, but it's well worth it.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmosen at mosen.org>
> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 12:39 AM
> Subject: RE: Comparison of Mobile Phone Markets
>
>
>> Hi Eric, I think Google are looking at WiMax spectrum, which is the new
> very
>> fast, long range wireless system. Spectrum simply means a range of radio
>> frequencies. This opens up huge possibilities for voice over Internet and
>> very high speed downloading over cell phones, but the carriers aren't
> going
>> to like it. Nokia, for example, have been forced to disable their voice
> over
>> Internet functions in some markets.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of SSEric
>> Sent: Friday, 18 January 2008 7:34 p.m.
>> To: 'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: Comparison of Mobile Phone Markets
>>
>> Ah, thanks; that clears up some things.
>>
>> This isn't quite the same or nearly so simple, but you can now switch 
>> from
>> device to device, so long as they are Verizon devices, yourself on line.
>> However, you cannot go from a regular phone to a smart phone or back.
>>
>> I did think Google was doing something with regard to the spectrum sale
>> going on very soon, but I don't know what I am talking about as soon as I
>> say spectrum.  :)
>>
>> Thanks for helping with our understanding of these confusing 
>> technologies.
>> I don't know if it is better that there are the choices or if just one
>> system would serve everyone better.
>>
>>  Eric SS
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> Mosen
>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 12:12 AM
>> To: 'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: Comparison of Mobile Phone Markets
>>
>> I think the problem is though that CDMA technology still requires the
>> carrier to activate the phone and assign phone numbers etc.
>>
>> With GSM, you can take a SIM, put it in a handset, and it becomes yours,
>> with your phone number. CDMA doesn't offer that simplicity.
>>
>> I could be wrong, but my understanding is that Google are looking at
> making
>> a handset rather than actually offering an alternative network. So 
>> they'll
>> be looking at alliances with the existing carriers just as Apple did.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of SSEric
>> Sent: Friday, 18 January 2008 5:58 p.m.
>> To: 'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: Comparison of Mobile Phone Markets
>>
>> Verizon has announced they will start letting us use unlocked phones -- 
> some
>> of them --later this year.  One thing that says to me is we know we are
>> screwing you and we will continue to do so for as long as we can.
>>
>> It seems that cellular is about where wired phones were just before the
> end
>> of Ma Bell.  The locking into long-term contracts, branding devices and
> only
>> allowing use of those devices, and nickel and diming customers for every
>> feature seems to be about to end.  I am not up on such things, but what
>> effect will Google jumping in have on the way all of us here do business.
>>
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