accessible phones and networks

Thu Apr 24 16:38:07 CDT 2008

Hi, Cy.
	The AT&T Tilt does work quite nicely with Mobile Speak Pocket 2.0,
but MSP is not part of the AT&T offer at all. As for the people at the
stores, it seems yours are no better than ours. That's why I always ask them
to show me all the phones I want to see and then pick up the phone and ask
them questions about it. It's unfortunate that the higher-end  phones aren't
very well supported by the company people. 
	Aman

-----Original Message-----
From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
[mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 5:25 PM
To: 'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'
Subject: RE: accessible phones and networks

Aman,
You are correct, it was the AT&T Tilt.
The way the rep presented the phones at the AT&T store was very confusing
and sorta muddled up. Other then pointing at the phones and asking me which
one I liked, showing me the printed documentation on what plans were
available he was fairly well tuned in to blind folks. (LOL)
AS I think back on it he showed me the Blackjack and then said that the Tilt
was another model that I might like better than the Blackjack 2 so I just
made a wrong assumption. (Hmm, that ass-u-me word again)
Cy, the Ancient Okie... . 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Aman Singer
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 3:52 PM
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Subject: RE: accessible phones and networks

Hi, Cy.
	To the best of my knowledge, there is no such thing as the Blackjack
Tilt. I've never heard of such a phone, though it may very well be a name
given to a certain phone by AT&T. There's the Blackjack 2, which is not
included in the offer despite its being a Smartphone, and there's the AT&T
Tilt, which  is a Pocket PC phone and therefore not included in the offer,
so whichever you mean by the question, I think the answer must be no.
	Aman

-----Original Message-----
From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
[mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 4:47 PM
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Subject: RE: accessible phones and networks

Hi, concerning the Samsung Blackjack, does this also include the Blackjack
Tilt?
That phone really does have a nice, feelable keyboard.
Cy, the Ancient Okie... 

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[mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Aman Singer
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 3:15 PM
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Subject: RE: accessible phones and networks

Hi, Marcy and all.
	I believe, though am not sure, that AT&T has six phones available
with the $89 Mobile Speak software. Those are the Motorola Q9 Global, the
Pantech Duo (not Trio, the Trios aren't either Symbian phones or WM
smartphones and made by Palm, not Pantech), the Nokia N75, the Samsung
Blackjack (not the Blackjack 2), the Cingular 3125, and the Nokia E62.
	Note that all this is confirmed, as well as many questions answered,
by the FAQ Code Factory has put up http://www.codefactory.es/att/ 
	I know that the last three phones I listed, the Blackjack, E62, and
3125 are older phones. They may no longer be available in stores and may, if
they are available at all, be available only from the AT&T disabilities
centre. Therefore, it's possible your contact at that centre, assuming you
wanted to buy from a store, only mentioned the first three.
	HTH.
	Aman

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[mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Marcy Weinberg
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 3:30 PM
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Subject: Re: accessible phones and networks

Okay, so now I'm confused.  Is the $49. over and above the $89. charge for
the mobilespeak?  I was under the impression that the $89. cost was for the
mobilespeak and its installation.  Marcy

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From: "VIRGIE UNDERWOOD" <v.underwood at verizon.net>
To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: accessible phones and networks

> Hi David,
> That is what Alfred told me, I was a little surprised but they do 
> charge for the installation.
>
> Virgie and Lady Hoshi
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Poehlman" <david.poehlman at handsontechnologeyes.com>
> To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" 
> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:46 PM
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>
>> they charge for installation?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "VIRGIE UNDERWOOD" <v.underwood at verizon.net>
>> To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List"
>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: accessible phones and networks
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> I spoke with Alfred at the disability department of AT&T and he told 
>> me I could order the phone and Mobile Speak from them.  He also said 
>> they would install Mobile Speak for me and they would charge me $49 
>> for the installation.  I did talk with some others there but Alfred 
>> seems to know what he is talking about.
>>
>> Do you have the number for the disability department?  If you need it 
>> just let me know.
>>
>> Virgie and Lady Hoshi
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "James Watts" <jameswatts at intergate.com>
>> To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List"
>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: accessible phones and networks
>>
>>
>>> Virgie, from what the disabilities center at A T and T told me, I 
>>> could not order service plus the phone through them, but that I 
>>> would first have to get the phone with contract from a store, then 
>>> ship it to them for the screen reader install. It seems unlike when 
>>> it was Cingular where one went through the disabilities center to do 
>>> everything. I'm glad I waited, though, since, hopefully, the newer 
>>> phones with Mobile Speak are better than the 6620 with basic Talks, 
>>> but a couple of times in 06, when I called to try to order under the 
>>> old system, I was continually told that the phone supported, the 
>>> 6620, was out of stock, and to call back.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Kevin, for pointing out that the Q was available through 
>>> Verizon.
>>> I
>>> did already know that but that fact confuses me, as, since Verizon 
>>> runs on CDMA and A T and T runs on GSM, the Q one can get from 
>>> Verizon versus the one from A T and T must be somewhat different. 
>>> Also, as I have said, never having done this before, I would need 
>>> someone to demonstrate for me installing Mobile Speak on any phone I 
>>> get. I probably can get a Q from Verizon for less as an existing 
>>> customer than from A T and T, so the overall cost difference might 
>>> not be that great.
>>>
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