Orb

[Sabaruddin Isa]

Hi Simon

no, i dont have duplicate messages on my N73 using nokia web browser.
I haven't checked on my pc though as i am away from my computer now.



On 4/3/08, Simon <simon at blinky-net.com> wrote:
> Hi list , especially jonathon
>
> I seem to be getting double messages from this list. Is anyone else getting
> this happening
> If so is it a list issue jonathon, or is it my email system playing up.
>
>  simon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
> Sent: Friday, 4 April 2008 11:11 a.m.
> To: 'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Orb
>
>  Hi Lala, At the CSUN conference in LA recently, I did a presentation on
> beyond the basics of PAC Mate. One of the products I featured and
> demonstrated during that presentation was Orb. I will be posting a recording
> of that presentation sometime soon, probably this month or next, in an
> edition of Freedom Scientific's Podcast, FSCast, which I produce and host.
> So you may like to look for that.
>
> But anyway... Orb can be found at http://www.orb.com. What they offer, is a
> free piece of software. Orb allows you to play media and view other content
> on your home PC, from anywhere in the world and on a wide range of devices.
>
> You download this software, and install it on the computer in your home on
> which your multimedia content lives. For example, in our house, we have a
> Windows Media Center, which is at the heart of our home entertainment. On
> that machine, there is around 400-500 gigs of music, movies, radio shows
> etc, as well as the material we record off TV. So it is on this PC that I
> have Orb installed.
>
> When I first installed Orb, I had to configure it, which requires a wee bit
> of work with the JAWS cursor but nothing too complex at all. I told Orb
> which folders I wanted it to monitor for new media etc. It also detected
> that the media Center PC had a TV tuner card, and walked me through the
> process of configuring the channels and naming them. This means that I can
> stream my local TV channels from anywhere. If you are in the US, and some
> other countries too I believe, they will also get you hooked up with a
> programme guide for local TV, so you can see what's on and record your
> favourite shows through Orb, assuming of course that you have a TV Tuner
> card. If you don't, then Orb will just skip this part of the set-up.
>
> Orb will build a database of all your music and then you can log on from any
> web browser and search for artists, songs and genres, easily build a
> playlist, and play your music anywhere.
>
> The cool thing is that it can offer this content to you in a variety of
> formats. For example, on my PAC Mate, I can stream in Windows Media Player.
> This would also apply to any other true Windows mobile device of course. On
> my N82, and it's nice to say I can now get into Orb on the N82 thanks to the
> Talks update just released, I have it streaming in Real Media or can choose
> from a range of other formats.
>
> Orb has a very comprehensive Internet Radio Guide, which is searchable and
> offers a good range of stations. And the nice thing is, it doesn't matter
> what format the station is originally in, Orb will send you the stream in
> the format you have selected for the device you are using at that time.
>
> Further, if you add a folder to Orb's database containing, say, Windows
> Media Playlist files pointing to streams, then Orb will transcode these too,
> allowing you to do Windows Media on Symbian devices. Conversely, if you are
> running Windows Mobile and don't have a RealPlayer installed, Orb can take
> care of that too.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Jonathan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of LaBrentha Coles
> Sent: Friday, 4 April 2008 11:36 a.m.
> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Orb
>
> Hi Jonathan,
> Thanks for responding so quickly.
> I know nothing about Orb, so please start from the beginning.
> .  If you think the info might be too elementary for the list, feel free to
> send to lamaco at cox.net.
> Thanks loads.
>
> Lala
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmosen at mosen.org>
> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 4:32 PM
> Subject: RE: Orb
>
>
> > Hi Lala, I changed the subject line, since I was very naughty and
> > didn't change it yesterday.
> >
> > Before I answer your question, how much do you know about Orb? Should
> > I start from the very beginning?
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
> > [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of LaBrentha
> > Coles
> > Sent: Friday, 4 April 2008 10:23 a.m.
> > To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: Nokia 6620
> >
> > Hello Jonathan,
> > Please explain more about Orb.
> > I'd very much like to be able to hear Windows Media streams on my N95-3.
> > Might I be able to use Orb as a transcoder?
> > If so, how is that done?
> >
> > Lala
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmosen at mosen.org>
> > To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
> > <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:56 PM
> > Subject: RE: Nokia 6620
> >
> >
> >> Hi Aman, thanks as always for your very reasoned and objective response.
> >>
> >> The phone in question that would not output the speech to the
> >> Smartlink was the HTC S630. I bought this one because it offered 3G
> >> in New Zealand, and had very good specs.
> >>
> >> I can confirm that, at least in my experience, there is no Nokia
> >> phone that charges from the USB port when you are synchronising or
> >> have the device connected for any purpose. However, it's possible to
> >> charge a Nokia by running a cable from the power socket to the USB
> >> port, which served my needs OK.
> >>
> >> You mentioned that you are willing to put up with poorer battery life
> >> because of the increased capability of WM phones. I would be
> >> interested to hear what you perceive the increased capability to be?
> >> The only annoyance I have with the N82 is that it won't stream
> >> Windows Media streams, but Orb as a transcoder can get around that
> >> one.
> >>
> >> Thank you for your view that the Windows Mobile devices crash a lot
> >> more, I think there can be little doubt of this. For me personally,
> >> this is the clincher. I don't want to be waiting for a call, only to
> >> find that I missed it because of a crash.
> >>
> >> Jonathan
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
> >> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Aman
> >> Singer
> >> Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2008 11:46 a.m.
> >> To: 'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'
> >> Subject: RE: Nokia 6620
> >>
> >> Hi, Jonathan.
> >> It's precisely as you say, this is one of those OS debates, but allow
> >> me, if I may, to stick my nose into this one. After all, even an OS
> >> debate can, at times, be interesting.
> >> I'm particularly interested because I use a smartlink myself and find
> >> it works perfectly with all the Windows Mobile phones I've used it
> >> with. These are the T-Mobile dash, HTC s720, HTC wizard, and HP HW 6955.
> >> I'm
> >> not sure which phone you used this unit with, I do remember your
> >> posts about it but don't remember the model in question, but I have,
> >> as I said, used it on four WM phones without trouble. I have also
> >> used it, for demo purposes, on several Symbian phones without
> >> difficulty and generally have found that it is a very well-behaved
> >> Bluetooth device and that most phones support it quite nicely.
> >> I'd also mention, for anyone who doesn't want to buy the smartlink,
> >> which is, IMHO, quite expensive, that there are two or three
> >> Bluetooth neck loops/silhouettes for hearing aids. I've only tried
> >> one, the Artone Bluetooth loop, needing, as I did, my Smartlink for
> >> other uses, but that too has worked well with all phones.
> >> Finally, I find that, though the battery life on WM devices is
> >> sometimes slightly less than that on Symbian phones, this isn't
> >> significant given the increased capability of the WM phones and their
> >> ability to charge from a USB port, which the Symbian phones I've used
> >> don't seem to have.
> >> Finally, I have found that the WM phones most certainly crash more
> >> than the Symbian phones do. I should say, though, that I don't say
> >> that Symbian is in any way bad. It's a matter of preference, IMHO,
> >> what is to be used.
> >> Having
> >> used both, I appreciate a good many things about each device type.
> >> Aman
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
> >> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> >> Mosen
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:53 PM
> >> To: 'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'
> >> Subject: RE: Nokia 6620
> >>
> >> Hi Isaac, well now, you'll get a variety of opinions on that
> >> question. My opinion is worth what you paid for it, but here you go.
> >>
> >> I really like my Windows Mobile-based PAC Mate for writing documents
> >> and running a whole bunch of cool programmes, but I have never
> >> particularly liked Windows Mobile-based phones. It would take a lot
> >> to convince me ever to buy one again. They don't sound as good to me,
> >> and they lock up too much.
> >> Others will have a different view. It's just another operating system
> >> debate and you'll have proponents of either. I will say though that
> >> the main reason why I got rid of my last Windows Mobile phone was
> >> that I couldn't get speech to go through my Phonak Smartlink, which
> >> is Bluetooth capable. That, and the lock ups and the absolutely
> >> abysmal battery life.
> >>
> >> For me, you can't go past Symbian on phones for stability, sound
> >> quality, and awesome hardware.
> >>
> >> Jonathan
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
> >> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of isaac
> >> obie
> >> Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2008 9:46 a.m.
> >> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
> >> Subject: Re: Nokia 6620
> >>
> >> Jonathan,
> >> Excellent points. Not only do I hear the music when the phone boots
> >> p, but
> >
> >> I
> >> can feel it as well. It's just that this is my first real experience
> >> with a phone. I've seen them, touched them, but not really done
> >> anything with them.
> >>
> >> I wish it would pla some music when shutting down as well. More than
> >> a one second jingle. But the loop setting is a great idea. I never
> >> thought of that. that setting sometimes let me know people have left
> >> the monitor on on the computer. Do you think I might do better with
> >> the I-Mate sp5m phone?
> >> thanks.
> >> Isaac
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmosen at mosen.org>
> >> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
> >> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 11:59 AM
> >> Subject: RE: Nokia 6620
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi Isaac, the phone will take a few seconds to boot up. The 6620 is
> >>> a smart phone, so it is in fact a computer.
> >>>
> >>> It's been a while since I've seen one but I would estimate you'd
> >>> have to wait a good 15 seconds at least. The phone should then play
> >>> the Nokia start-up sound which you may or may not be able to hear.
> >>> One trick I find quite useful, given that you wear hearing aids, is
> >>> to put your hearing aids onto the loop setting. If the phone is on,
> >>> you should definitely be able to detect some electromagnetic
> >>> activity from the phone to tell you that it's on.
> >>>
> >>> Jonathan
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
> >>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of isaac
> >>> obie
> >>> Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2008 3:52 a.m.
> >>> To: blindphones
> >>> Subject: Nokia 6620
> >>>
> >>> Hi all:
> >>> Why does it take so long for the phone to come on once you press the
> >>> button?
> >>> It acts like a windows 98 computer, slow as molasses climbing a hill
> >>> in the middle of winter. I can't tell if it's on or off at times.
> >>> that button seems to be worn out. You have to press it so hard for so
> long.
> >>> I don't think I am going to like this phone much. Are they all
> >>> stubborn like this?
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Isaac
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