Orb
Jonathan Mosen
jmosen at mosen.org
Thu Apr 3 16:32:56 CDT 2008
Hi Lala, I changed the subject line, since I was very naughty and didn't
change it yesterday.
Before I answer your question, how much do you know about Orb? Should I
start from the very beginning?
Jonathan
-----Original Message-----
From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
[mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of LaBrentha Coles
Sent: Friday, 4 April 2008 10:23 a.m.
To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
Subject: Re: Nokia 6620
Hello Jonathan,
Please explain more about Orb.
I'd very much like to be able to hear Windows Media streams on my N95-3.
Might I be able to use Orb as a transcoder?
If so, how is that done?
Lala
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmosen at mosen.org>
To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
<blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:56 PM
Subject: RE: Nokia 6620
> Hi Aman, thanks as always for your very reasoned and objective response.
>
> The phone in question that would not output the speech to the Smartlink
> was
> the HTC S630. I bought this one because it offered 3G in New Zealand, and
> had very good specs.
>
> I can confirm that, at least in my experience, there is no Nokia phone
> that
> charges from the USB port when you are synchronising or have the device
> connected for any purpose. However, it's possible to charge a Nokia by
> running a cable from the power socket to the USB port, which served my
> needs
> OK.
>
> You mentioned that you are willing to put up with poorer battery life
> because of the increased capability of WM phones. I would be interested to
> hear what you perceive the increased capability to be? The only annoyance
> I
> have with the N82 is that it won't stream Windows Media streams, but Orb
> as
> a transcoder can get around that one.
>
> Thank you for your view that the Windows Mobile devices crash a lot more,
> I
> think there can be little doubt of this. For me personally, this is the
> clincher. I don't want to be waiting for a call, only to find that I
> missed
> it because of a crash.
>
> Jonathan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Aman Singer
> Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2008 11:46 a.m.
> To: 'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Nokia 6620
>
> Hi, Jonathan.
> It's precisely as you say, this is one of those OS debates, but
> allow me, if I may, to stick my nose into this one. After all, even an OS
> debate can, at times, be interesting.
> I'm particularly interested because I use a smartlink myself and
> find it works perfectly with all the Windows Mobile phones I've used it
> with. These are the T-Mobile dash, HTC s720, HTC wizard, and HP HW 6955.
> I'm
> not sure which phone you used this unit with, I do remember your posts
> about
> it but don't remember the model in question, but I have, as I said, used
> it
> on four WM phones without trouble. I have also used it, for demo purposes,
> on several Symbian phones without difficulty and generally have found that
> it is a very well-behaved Bluetooth device and that most phones support it
> quite nicely.
> I'd also mention, for anyone who doesn't want to buy the smartlink,
> which is, IMHO, quite expensive, that there are two or three Bluetooth
> neck
> loops/silhouettes for hearing aids. I've only tried one, the Artone
> Bluetooth loop, needing, as I did, my Smartlink for other uses, but that
> too
> has worked well with all phones.
> Finally, I find that, though the battery life on WM devices is
> sometimes slightly less than that on Symbian phones, this isn't
> significant
> given the increased capability of the WM phones and their ability to
> charge
> from a USB port, which the Symbian phones I've used don't seem to have.
> Finally, I have found that the WM phones most certainly crash more than
> the
> Symbian phones do. I should say, though, that I don't say that Symbian is
> in
> any way bad. It's a matter of preference, IMHO, what is to be used. Having
> used both, I appreciate a good many things about each device type.
> Aman
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> Mosen
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:53 PM
> To: 'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Nokia 6620
>
> Hi Isaac, well now, you'll get a variety of opinions on that question. My
> opinion is worth what you paid for it, but here you go.
>
> I really like my Windows Mobile-based PAC Mate for writing documents and
> running a whole bunch of cool programmes, but I have never particularly
> liked Windows Mobile-based phones. It would take a lot to convince me ever
> to buy one again. They don't sound as good to me, and they lock up too
> much.
> Others will have a different view. It's just another operating system
> debate
> and you'll have proponents of either. I will say though that the main
> reason
> why I got rid of my last Windows Mobile phone was that I couldn't get
> speech
> to go through my Phonak Smartlink, which is Bluetooth capable. That, and
> the
> lock ups and the absolutely abysmal battery life.
>
> For me, you can't go past Symbian on phones for stability, sound quality,
> and awesome hardware.
>
> Jonathan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of isaac obie
> Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2008 9:46 a.m.
> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Nokia 6620
>
> Jonathan,
> Excellent points. Not only do I hear the music when the phone boots p, but
> I
> can feel it as well. It's just that this is my first real experience with
> a
> phone. I've seen them, touched them, but not really done anything with
> them.
>
> I wish it would pla some music when shutting down as well. More than a one
> second jingle. But the loop setting is a great idea. I never thought of
> that. that setting sometimes let me know people have left the monitor on
> on
> the computer. Do you think I might do better with the I-Mate sp5m phone?
> thanks.
> Isaac
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmosen at mosen.org>
> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 11:59 AM
> Subject: RE: Nokia 6620
>
>
>> Hi Isaac, the phone will take a few seconds to boot up. The 6620 is a
>> smart phone, so it is in fact a computer.
>>
>> It's been a while since I've seen one but I would estimate you'd have
>> to wait a good 15 seconds at least. The phone should then play the
>> Nokia start-up sound which you may or may not be able to hear. One
>> trick I find quite useful, given that you wear hearing aids, is to put
>> your hearing aids onto the loop setting. If the phone is on, you
>> should definitely be able to detect some electromagnetic activity from
>> the phone to tell you that it's on.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of isaac
>> obie
>> Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2008 3:52 a.m.
>> To: blindphones
>> Subject: Nokia 6620
>>
>> Hi all:
>> Why does it take so long for the phone to come on once you press the
>> button?
>> It acts like a windows 98 computer, slow as molasses climbing a hill
>> in the middle of winter. I can't tell if it's on or off at times. that
>> button seems to be worn out. You have to press it so hard for so long.
>> I don't think I am going to like this phone much. Are they all
>> stubborn like this?
>> Thanks
>> Isaac
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