Nokia 6620

[Shane Jackson]

Wow, thanks so much for this info, Jonathan.  Looks like I'll be doing  
some serious research.  I do hope I can find something for the 8525,  
as the volume is quite low to my ears.  Wish me luck!!!  Again, thanks.
On Apr 2, 2008, at 6:13 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

> Hi Shane, absolutely! Bluetooth hearing devices for phones are right  
> on
> topic here. The one I use thanks to a Government grant is called  
> Smartlink.
> It's an FM system so it has two microphones, as well as a line  
> input. It
> also appears as a Bluetooth headset. If you also use Phonak hearing  
> aids,
> you can change programs, volume etc, using this device.
>
> But there are cheaper solutions. Nokia does something called the  
> Loopset,
> which is just a hearing loop that connects to the phone. There are  
> probably
> similar products for Windows Mobile phones.
>
> Actually some people do use their PAC mate as a phone, with a CF  
> card that
> acts as a phone with a microphone headset. I've not tried this myself
> though.
>
> Jonathan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Shane  
> Jackson
> Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2008 12:02 p.m.
> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Nokia 6620
>
> Jonathan,
>
> I'm not Aman, but I do use my AT&T 8525/HTC TyTn to do streaming  
> audio, and
> it works fine for the most part.  Also, I do experience far
> more crashes with my WM phone than I ever did with the Symbian phone.
> You're definitely dead on there, and that's lamentable, but I hope  
> something
> can be done about that in the very near future.  Again, for me, it's  
> all
> about how it works with my Braille display.  I have the power of Word,
> Excel, and Outlook at my fingertips with Braille, literally, and it's
> wonderful.  I understand that Pacmate allows these same advantages,  
> but the
> price tag is much too high for me to
> justify.  Hmmm, I wonder if they could put a phone on that Pacmate!
> Wouldn't that be cool.  Oh, and if you or Aman could give me more  
> info on
> bluetooth hearing devices, that would be awesome, if you would  
> consider that
> on topic.  If not, I'd be happy to receive any replies off-list.   
> Thanks.
> On Apr 2, 2008, at 5:56 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
>
>> Hi Aman, thanks as always for your very reasoned and objective
>> response.
>>
>> The phone in question that would not output the speech to the
>> Smartlink was the HTC S630. I bought this one because it offered 3G  
>> in
>> New Zealand, and had very good specs.
>>
>> I can confirm that, at least in my experience, there is no Nokia  
>> phone
>> that charges from the USB port when you are synchronising or have the
>> device connected for any purpose. However, it's possible to charge a
>> Nokia by running a cable from the power socket to the USB port, which
>> served my needs OK.
>>
>> You mentioned that you are willing to put up with poorer battery life
>> because of the increased capability of WM phones. I would be
>> interested to hear what you perceive the increased capability to be?
>> The only annoyance I have with the N82 is that it won't stream  
>> Windows
>> Media streams, but Orb as a transcoder can get around that one.
>>
>> Thank you for your view that the Windows Mobile devices crash a lot
>> more, I think there can be little doubt of this. For me personally,
>> this is the clincher. I don't want to be waiting for a call, only to
>> find that I missed it because of a crash.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Aman
>> Singer
>> Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2008 11:46 a.m.
>> To: 'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: Nokia 6620
>>
>> Hi, Jonathan.
>> 	It's precisely as you say, this is one of those OS debates, but
> allow
>> me, if I may, to stick my nose into this one. After all, even an OS
>> debate can, at times, be interesting.
>> 	I'm particularly interested because I use a smartlink myself and
> find
>> it works perfectly with all the Windows Mobile phones I've used it
>> with. These are the T-Mobile dash, HTC s720, HTC wizard, and HP HW
>> 6955. I'm not sure which phone you used this unit with, I do remember
>> your posts about it but don't remember the model in question, but I
>> have, as I said, used it on four WM phones without trouble. I have
>> also used it, for demo purposes, on several Symbian phones without
>> difficulty and generally have found that it is a very well-behaved
>> Bluetooth device and that most phones support it quite nicely.
>> 	I'd also mention, for anyone who doesn't want to buy the smartlink,
>> which is, IMHO, quite expensive, that there are two or three  
>> Bluetooth
>> neck loops/silhouettes for hearing aids. I've only tried one, the
>> Artone Bluetooth loop, needing, as I did, my Smartlink for other  
>> uses,
>> but that too has worked well with all phones.
>> 	Finally, I find that, though the battery life on WM devices is
>> sometimes slightly less than that on Symbian phones, this isn't
>> significant given the increased capability of the WM phones and their
>> ability to charge from a USB port, which the Symbian phones I've used
>> don't seem to have.
>> Finally, I have found that the WM phones most certainly crash more
>> than the Symbian phones do. I should say, though, that I don't say
>> that Symbian is in any way bad. It's a matter of preference, IMHO,
>> what is to be used.
>> Having
>> used both, I appreciate a good many things about each device type.
>> 	Aman
>> 	
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
>> Mosen
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:53 PM
>> To: 'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: Nokia 6620
>>
>> Hi Isaac, well now, you'll get a variety of opinions on that  
>> question.
>> My opinion is worth what you paid for it, but here you go.
>>
>> I really like my Windows Mobile-based PAC Mate for writing documents
>> and running a whole bunch of cool programmes, but I have never
>> particularly liked Windows Mobile-based phones. It would take a lot  
>> to
>> convince me ever to buy one again. They don't sound as good to me,  
>> and
>> they lock up too much.
>> Others will have a different view. It's just another operating system
>> debate and you'll have proponents of either. I will say though that
>> the main reason why I got rid of my last Windows Mobile phone was  
>> that
>> I couldn't get speech to go through my Phonak Smartlink, which is
>> Bluetooth capable. That, and the lock ups and the absolutely abysmal
>> battery life.
>>
>> For me, you can't go past Symbian on phones for stability, sound
>> quality, and awesome hardware.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of isaac
>> obie
>> Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2008 9:46 a.m.
>> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Nokia 6620
>>
>> Jonathan,
>> Excellent points. Not only do I hear the music when the phone boots  
>> p,
>> but I can feel it as well. It's just that this is my first real
>> experience with a phone. I've seen them, touched them, but not really
>> done anything with them.
>>
>> I wish it would pla some music when shutting down as well. More  
>> than a
>> one second jingle. But the loop setting is a great idea. I never
>> thought of that. that setting sometimes let me know people have left
>> the monitor on on the computer. Do you think I might do better with
>> the I-Mate sp5m phone?
>> thanks.
>> Isaac
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmosen at mosen.org>
>> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 11:59 AM
>> Subject: RE: Nokia 6620
>>
>>
>>> Hi Isaac, the phone will take a few seconds to boot up. The 6620  
>>> is a
>>> smart phone, so it is in fact a computer.
>>>
>>> It's been a while since I've seen one but I would estimate you'd  
>>> have
>>> to wait a good 15 seconds at least. The phone should then play the
>>> Nokia start-up sound which you may or may not be able to hear. One
>>> trick I find quite useful, given that you wear hearing aids, is to
>>> put your hearing aids onto the loop setting. If the phone is on, you
>>> should definitely be able to detect some electromagnetic activity
>>> from the phone to tell you that it's on.
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of isaac
>>> obie
>>> Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2008 3:52 a.m.
>>> To: blindphones
>>> Subject: Nokia 6620
>>>
>>> Hi all:
>>> Why does it take so long for the phone to come on once you press the
>>> button?
>>> It acts like a windows 98 computer, slow as molasses climbing a hill
>>> in the middle of winter. I can't tell if it's on or off at times.
>>> that
>>> button seems to be worn out. You have to press it so hard for so
>>> long.
>>> I don't think I am going to like this phone much. Are they all
>>> stubborn like this?
>>> Thanks
>>> Isaac
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> Shane Jackson
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