New Phone and Service

[Simon]

Yeah stephen, I was being sarcastic. 
  There to me is no reason why a bit of software needs to be that costly. 
 But guess, someone needs  limo polished.

their

-----Original Message-----
From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
[mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Giggar
Sent: Wednesday, 2 April 2008 9:54 p.m.
To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
Subject: Re: New Phone and Service

Simon

No it think it come down to more greed then anything. Over $1,100 in profit
for each KNFBReader that they sell. I'm basing this on the fact that they
sell it to previous owner of the KNFBReader hardware package for $500. You
can bet that they are still making a profit at that level or they wouldn't
be selling to prior owners at that price.

Signed: Stephen Giggar
sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
Skype: dr-phone.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon" <simon at blinky-net.com>
To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
<blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:24 AM
Subject: RE: New Phone and Service


> that software must be flippen fantastic to be getting that price
>
> Thanks
>
> simon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Stephen
Giggar
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 April 2008 7:08 a.m.
> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
> Subject: Re: New Phone and Service
>
> No Simon the $1,600 does not include the phone. That is just the software
> only! So in either case; You would have to pay $1,600 USD for the Software
> and then buy the phone. So in case of the N82; That would be a total of
> about $2,100. Then you have to pay for the screen reader transfer license
on
> top of that or buy the screen reader if you do not already have a phone
that
> you can transfer the license from.
>
> So that could cost you upwards of $2,400 USD if you got a new screen
reader,
> New phone, and the KNFBReader.
>
> Signed: Stephen Giggar
> sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
> Skype: dr-phone.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Simon" <simon at blinky-net.com>
> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 1:58 PM
> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>
>
>> Not much of a price reduction with the KNFb reader still over 1600
> dollars.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Amir
> Soleimani
>> Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2008 11:36 p.m.
>> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: New Phone and Service
>>
>> Also, the upcoming Nokia 6220 Classic which would offer a 5MP camera with
>> Xenon flash might be added to the list of supported handsets for KNFB
>> Reader. It would probably be the cheapest KNFB Reader-supported handset
> with
>> its estimated $300 price tag.
>>
>> Best,\
>> Amir
>> ----------
>> Visit my blog at:
>> http://mobilespace.wordpress.com
>>
>> On 4/1/2008 1:28 PM, Stephen Giggar wrote:
>>> Keith
>>>
>>> The KNFBReader may be nice; But the price is what he didn't give. That
>>> would cost you $1,600 USD. I think that is asking a lot just for the
>>> software. Over 5 times the cost of the screen reader if you pay for it
>>> outright. Over 4 times the cost of WayFinder Access. Over 3 times the
> cost
>> of the cell phone. That should give people a idea of how over prices the
>> KNFBReader is.
>>>
>>> Now to cell phones.
>>> The N82 runs between $473 and up. The N73 I have seen from other web
site
>> running from $299 and up.
>>> The N95-3 (USA 3G) $499 and up. The E51 for about $250 and up. The
>>> N95-4 (USA 3G 8GB) Over $600 and up.
>>>
>>> Really; I think you can do better then the N75 unless you just want a
> flip
>> phone.
>>>
>>> Hear is a few other sites you can check out for phones.
>>> Mobile Planet. Do not pre order from them. Just buy what is in stock.
>>> www.mobileplanet.com
>>>
>>> Mobile City Online.
>>> www.mobilecityonline.com
>>>
>>> Popular Electronics
>>> www.popularelect.com
>>>
>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>> sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Keith Christian" <keithchristian at roadrunner.com>
>>> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
>>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:03 PM
>>> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>
>>>> I thought that the N95 was the only phone it ran on.  I'll look into
>>>> the
>>>> N82 also.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>>>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
>>>> Mosen
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 8:52 PM
>>>> To: 'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'
>>>> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi keith, if reading documents while on the go is important to you,
>>>> you may want to consider the N82, which is an awesome phone and for
>>>> now is the only one that supports the KNFB Reader Mobile.
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>>>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Keith
>>>> Christian
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2008 12:56 p.m.
>>>> To: 'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'
>>>> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Cingular is offering the N75 for $199 with a 2 year contract.
>>>> Letstalk.com is offering it for $49 with what looks like the same
>>>> contract. Have any of you had any experience with this phone?  Would
>>>> you consider a different phone and why?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Stephen and others on the list for your advice so far, it has
>>>> been helpful.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>>>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Stephen
>>>> Giggar
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 6:41 AM
>>>> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: New Phone and Service
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>> Hear is a list of some of the phone that support the 850 and 1900 MHZ
>>>> band from AT&T and these phones are quad band GSM Symbian phones.
>>>> These phone will not be sold by AT&T but will work fine with your
>>>> existing sim chip from your 6620. These as far as I know are still
being
>> produced.
>>>>
>>>> Nokia.
>>>> 5700 Express Music,
>>>> 6110 Navigator,
>>>> 6120 Classic,
>>>> 6121 Classic,
>>>> 6290,
>>>> E50 dash 1 and E50 dash 2,
>>>> E51,
>>>> E61,
>>>> E61I,
>>>> E65,
>>>> E70 dash 2 (hard to find) unbranded,
>>>> E90,
>>>> N73,
>>>> N76,
>>>> N80IE,
>>>> N81,
>>>> N81-8GB,
>>>> N82,
>>>> N95 dash 1 (2100 MHZ 3G),
>>>> N95 dash 2 ( 8GB 2100 MHZ 3G)
>>>> N95 dash 3 (USA 3G),
>>>> N95 dash 4 (USA 3g 8GB)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>>> sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
>>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Keith Christian" <keithchristian at roadrunner.com>
>>>> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
>>>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 9:12 PM
>>>> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your reply.  You mention many of the reasons why I am
>>>>> investigating a new phone and possibly a new provider.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a list of the 20 Symbian phones that may be of interest?  I
>>>>> use a PACMate and it would be really cool to use the Braille display
>>>>> for sending text messages and browsing the internet, if that is
>>>>> possible. If I can upgrade my Talks for less than buying Mobile
>>>>> Speak that would certainly be a consideration.
>>>>>
>>>>> I appreciate all the advice, thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Keith
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>>>>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Stephen
>>>>> Giggar
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 2:20 PM
>>>>> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
>>>>> Subject: Re: New Phone and Service
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Keith
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a hard question to answer and their is no correct answer.
>>>>> Being you already have Talks; You may want to stay with what you
>>>>> already have as far as the screen reader. As far as a phone; You
>>>>> could get the N75 from At&T and keep your existing plan and sign up
>>>>>
>>>> for
>>>>
>>>>> another two year contract to
>>>>> get the phone cheaper. Or you can buy a different phone not carried
>>>>> by
>>>>>
>>>>> AT&T and have many more choices of phone to use and not just the one
>>>>> Symbian based phone that
>>>>>
>>>> is
>>>>
>>>>> still being made by Nokia
>>>>> and sold by AT&T.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would suggest that you buy the phone out side of AT&T and just
>>>>> moving your existing Sim card from the 6620 to the new phone and
>>>>> buying a Talks license transfer from a Talks dealer. This would give
>>>>> you.
>>>>> 1. A unlocked phone.
>>>>> 2. A unbranded phone that works better.
>>>>> 3. Doesn't have any of the AT&T stuff on it as far as shareware or
>>>>> floatware or any other stuff to slow down the phone.
>>>>> 4. Getting the phone as Nokia atended it to be put out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also by doing it this way; You will not be required to sign a new
>>>>> contract and can switch cell providers when ever you like and use
>>>>> the new phone on that network.
>>>>>
>>>>> This will also give you the ability to choose from a good 20 plus
>>>>> Symbian Nokia phones that support the 850 and 1900 MHZ bands that
>>>>> AT&T
>>>>>
>>>>> uses.
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember; All Symbian series 60 3rd Edition phones will work with
>>>>> either Talks or MobileSpeak. And both screen readers will give you a
>>>>> 30 day trial license on request. That away you can trial both screen
>>>>> readers and see what one gives you the needed information you
>>>>> require and what functions you use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Their is no one best screen reader for most phones. It comes down to
>>>>> how you use it and what you want to do with the screen reader.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>>>> sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
>>>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Cy Selfridge" <cselfridge at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
>>>>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:13 PM
>>>>> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Keith,
>>>>>> I believe you are talking about www.letstalk.com Now, as I
>>>>>> understand it, AT&T (Cingular) now will (should) offer you a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nokia N75 with the Mobile Speak. They should charge you $89 for the
>>>>>> mobile speak and I think I saw the N75 from AT&T for $99? Now,
>>>>>> (okay Stephen, step in here) I also think they will have one of
>>>>>> their Windows based phones with the Microsoft version of Mobile
>>>>>> Speak as well. Currently the Microsoft version of Mobile Speak is,
>>>>>> in my opinion, a better deal because you can swap phones, upgrade
>>>>>> phones or
>>>>>>
>>>>>> whatever *without* a charge. This is *not* currently true for the
>>>>>> Symbian versions of Mobile Speak. HTH, Cy, the ancient Okie...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>>>>>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Keith
>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:52 AM
>>>>>> To: blindphones at mosenexplosion.com
>>>>>> Subject: New Phone and Service
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My cell contract is up and I would like to upgrade my phone and
>>>>>> possibly service.  Currently, I have a Nokia 6620 with Talks.
>>>>>> Cingular is my service provider.  We get 500 minutes  a month for
>>>>>> $60
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (two phones).  It seems like there was a web site that offered
>>>>>> great deals on phones and service, but I don't recall the name.
>>>>>> Anyone have
>>>>>>
>>>>>> recommendations?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you can recommend some phones to check out and if Talks is still
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> better screen reader, let me know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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