New Phone and Service

[Stephen Giggar]

No AT&T doesn't have HSDPA fully for any of their towers. The best you would get with a N95-3 or 
N95-4 and or the upcoming N78 would be about 500k.


That is correct on the 3G and GSM what you said in another message.
Signed: Stephen Giggar
sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
Skype: dr-phone.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gabriel Millay" <gmillay at student.atmaine.com>
To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'" <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:43 PM
Subject: RE: New Phone and Service


> Hi does ATNT have the HSDPA  technology for any of there 3G towers? Thanks
>
> Gabe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Giggar
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 13:39
> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>
> That will depend on the phone. The n75, will do about 100k beings it is not
> got the HSDPA stuff. The n82 has this ability but only on the 2100 band.
> Speeds will very from area to area on any network regardless of what is
> being used. 3g or edge or gsm etc...
>
> Produced on a Nokia N73 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
> Signed by: Stephen Giggar
> sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
> Skype: dr-phone.
>
> - original message -
> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
> From: "Gabriel Millay" <gmillay at student.atmaine.com>
> Date: 02/04/2008 5:21 PM
>
> I meant how fast of a data connection does the 3G network give you. Thanks
>
> Gabe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Giggar
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 11:57
> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>
> About the same speed of a 56k modem.
>
> Produced on a Nokia N73 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
> Signed by: Stephen Giggar
> sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
> Skype: dr-phone.
>
> - original message -
> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
> From: "Gabriel Millay" <gmillay at student.atmaine.com>
> Date: 02/04/2008 2:29 PM
>
> Oh ok how fast of a data transfer does it give you over an ordinary edge
> connection? Thanks
>
> Gabe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Giggar
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 10:17
> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>
> I did not notice any difference.
>
> Produced on a Nokia N73 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
> Signed by: Stephen Giggar
> sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
> Skype: dr-phone.
>
> - original message -
> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
> From: "Gabriel Millay" <gmillay at student.atmaine.com>
> Date: 02/04/2008 12:36 PM
>
> Steven does the sound quality sound better when in a 3g network area? Thanks
>
> Gabe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Giggar
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 17:49
> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
> Subject: Re: New Phone and Service
>
> keith
>
> AT&T can not turn off the 3G. They can turn off the internet access but not
> the 3G as far as talking. So turning off the internet does not disable the
> 3G or the usage of the 3G radio in the phone. The 3G Radio is used for
> internet and for making calls. They can not switch the phone to GSM mode
> only. The 4 hour talk time is only when you are in GSM mode or not in a 3G
> coverage area. In a 3G coverage area; Talk time is about 2 hours. If you do
> not want to take to hart what we are saying!
> Look at the Nokia web site or the manual about Talks time. See below for web
> link to the Nokia site.
>
> Trust what people are saying on list and you have herd from at least 3
> people who said they have short battery life when on a call when in a 3G
> coverage area.
>
> Also keith the N75 is not the only phone that will play MP3 files. Any of
> the Symbian series 60 phones will do that. As far a having stereo speakers!
> Again the N75 is not the only one to have them. As far as that goes; it is
> quite late in the game. The N73, N82, N81 series, N95 series, 6290, E90 and
> I think a few more also have stereo speakers. Same goes that other phones
> have a built in FM Radio as well.
>
> Hear is what the Nokia USA web site says about the battery life of the N75.
> WCDMA is 3G EGSM is GSM.!
>
> N75 Phone Battery Life
>
> list of 6 items
> Standard Li-Ion Battery 800 mAh
> Digital Talk Time up to 4 Hours:
> list of 2 items nesting level 1
> WCDMA: up to 132 minutes
> EGSM: up to 250 minutes
> list end nesting level 1
>
> Hear is the Nokia web site.
> www.nokiausa.com/A4409181
>
> Signed: Stephen Giggar
> sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
> Skype: dr-phone.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dennis" <dennisl0 at evenlink.com>
> To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 4:15 PM
> Subject: Re: New Phone and Service
>
>
>> first of all keith i dont think they will turn off the three g i asked
> them
>> to they said it could not be done if i remember correctly
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Keith Christian" <keithchristian at roadrunner.com>
>> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 5:10 PM
>> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>>
>>
>>> Hi Juanita,
>>>
>>> About how long are you talking on the phone before needing to charge
>>> it every three days or so?  I called AT&T and they said it should get
>>> 4 hours talk time or 8 days standby time.  Does that sound about what
>>> you are getting?  Are you satisfied with the phone over all?
>>>
>>> Do you listen to MP3s on it very much? I was hoping I could use it
>>> like an IPOD that I never got!  Would you mind describing how you use
>>> your phone?  Interested if you use the internet, Bluetooth head sets,
>>> word processing, etc.
>>>
>>> BTW, when I asked AT&T about 3G usage, they said they could turn it
>>> off on their end.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of
>>> jordmartin at suddenlink.net
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:47 AM
>>> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: New Phone and Service
>>>
>>>
>>> I can't comment on 3G but my N75 needs to be charged every 3 days.
>>>
>>> Juanita Martin
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Keith Christian" <keithchristian at roadrunner.com>
>>> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
>>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 9:38 AM
>>> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh Stephen, please tell me this is an April Fools Joke!  If there is
>>>> 3G available in my area, the phone would need charging each day?  I
>>>> was hoping to charge less than my current phone not more!
>>>>
>>>> How does one find out if they are in or near a 3G area?  What is 3G
>>>> for, GPS?
>>>>
>>>> The phone sounds great from the descriptions I have read.  The draw
>>>> backs I have read about are mainly are the battery and the headphone
>>>> jack.  I did not hear that it would need to be charged several times
>>>> a
>>>
>>>> day.  That would be very disappointing if that is the case.
>>>>
>>>> I was hoping to use it as an MP3 player, but I can't be charging it
>>>> several times a day!  Can anyone comment on battery life if not in a
>>>> 3G area?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>>>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Stephen
>>>> Giggar
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 6:21 AM
>>>> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: New Phone and Service
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That is correct. If you get one of the new phones and it has the
>>>> 20.x firmware. You can not get it un branded. You will be stuck with
>>>> all the AT at T limitations and the short battery life if you happen to
>>>> be in
>>>
>>>> a 3g coverage area. Another words, you may be charging the phone 2
>>>> or more times a day.
>>>>
>>>> Produced on a Nokia N73 smart phone using a Symbian based screen
>>>> reader. Signed by: Stephen Giggar sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
>>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>>>
>>>> - original message -
>>>> Subject: Re: New Phone and Service
>>>> From: "dennis" <dennisl0 at evenlink.com>
>>>> Date: 01/04/2008 12:58 PM
>>>>
>>>> i dont believe that is possible anymore unless you have the old firm
>>>> ware stephen correct me please if i am wrong
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Gabriel Millay" <gmillay at student.atmaine.com>
>>>> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
>>>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:49 AM
>>>> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Keith what you could do is to buy the phone and then unbrand it
>>>>> yourself so you would only have to pay the forty nine dollars for it.
>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gabe
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>>>>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Keith
>>>>> Christian
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 23:59
>>>>> To: 'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'
>>>>> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Dennis,
>>>>>
>>>>> I called them, thanks for the number.  The phone unbranded is $400
>>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>> the ATT version is $40.
>>>>>
>>>>> They told me there is no difference between the batteries and blue
>>>>> tooth connectivity.  However, the guy sounded like he just wanted
>>>>> to make me an offer I could not refuse.  I was very close to
>>>>> agreeing to
>>>
>>>>> the 2 year contract and the new phones though.  I'll need to think
>>>>> about it a bit more. My wife is needing a new phone too and it
>>>>> would be nice for us to have the same chargers and all that.
>>>>>
>>>>> I appreciate all the comments.
>>>>>
>>>>> Keith
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>>>>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of dennis
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 7:10 PM
>>>>> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
>>>>> Subject: Re: New Phone and Service
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> keith the 49 dollar phone is branded to atnt / singular
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Keith Christian" <keithchristian at roadrunner.com>
>>>>> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
>>>>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 8:59 PM
>>>>> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow, that makes the letstalk deal even better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>>>>>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> dennis
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 5:08 PM
>>>>>> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: New Phone and Service
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> keith i would outright buy the n75 rather then use the singular
>>>>>> version with the unbranded one you can use any blue tooth not true
>>>>>> with the singular version if i remember correctly also with the
>>>>>> unbranded one you get a longer battery life it's an all around
>>>>>> better
>>>>
>>>>>> deal. dennis
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Keith Christian" <keithchristian at roadrunner.com>
>>>>>> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
>>>>>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 7:55 PM
>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cingular is offering the N75 for $199 with a 2 year contract.
>>>>>>> Letstalk.com is offering it for $49 with what looks like the same
>>>>>>> contract.  Have any of you had any experience with this phone?
>>>>>>> Would
>>>>>
>>>>>>> you consider a different phone and why?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Stephen and others on the list for your advice so far, it
>>>>>>> has
>>>>
>>>>>>> been helpful.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>>>>>>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>> Stephen
>>>>
>>>>>>> Giggar
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 6:41 AM
>>>>>>> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: New Phone and Service
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hear is a list of some of the phone that support the 850 and 1900
>>>>>>> MHZ
>>>>>
>>>>>>> band from AT&T and these phones are quad band GSM Symbian phones.
>>>>>>> These phone will not be sold by AT&T but will work fine with your
>>>>>>> existing sim chip from your 6620. These as far as I know are
>>>>>>> still being produced.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nokia.
>>>>>>> 5700 Express Music,
>>>>>>> 6110 Navigator,
>>>>>>> 6120 Classic,
>>>>>>> 6121 Classic,
>>>>>>> 6290,
>>>>>>> E50 dash 1 and E50 dash 2,
>>>>>>> E51,
>>>>>>> E61,
>>>>>>> E61I,
>>>>>>> E65,
>>>>>>> E70 dash 2 (hard to find) unbranded, E90, N73, N76, N80IE, N81,
>>>>>>> N81-8GB, N82,
>>>>>>> N95 dash 1 (2100 MHZ 3G),
>>>>>>> N95 dash 2 ( 8GB 2100 MHZ 3G)
>>>>>>> N95 dash 3 (USA 3G),
>>>>>>> N95 dash 4 (USA 3g 8GB)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>>>>>> sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Keith Christian" <keithchristian at roadrunner.com>
>>>>>>> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
>>>>>>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 9:12 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you for your reply.  You mention many of the reasons why I
>>>>>>>> am
>>>>
>>>>>>>> investigating a new phone and possibly a new provider.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there a list of the 20 Symbian phones that may be of interest?
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> use a PACMate and it would be really cool to use the Braille
>>>>>>>> display
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> for sending text messages and browsing the internet, if that is
>>>>>>>> possible. If I can upgrade my Talks for less than buying Mobile
>>>>>>>> Speak
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that would certainly be a consideration.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I appreciate all the advice, thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>>>>>>>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>> Stephen
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Giggar
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 2:20 PM
>>>>>>>> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: New Phone and Service
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is a hard question to answer and their is no correct answer.
>>>>>>>> Being you already have Talks; You may want to stay with what you
>>>>>>>> already have as far as the screen reader. As far as a phone; You
>>>>>>>> could get the N75 from At&T and keep your existing plan and sign
>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> another two year contract to
>>>>>>>> get the phone cheaper. Or you can buy a different phone not
>>>>>>>> carried
>>>>
>>>>>>>> by AT&T and have many more choices of phone to use and not just
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>>>>> one Symbian based phone that
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> still being made by Nokia
>>>>>>>> and sold by AT&T.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would suggest that you buy the phone out side of AT&T and just
>>>>>>>> moving your existing Sim card from the 6620 to the new phone and
>>>>>>>> buying a Talks license transfer from a Talks dealer. This would
>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you. 1. A unlocked phone. 2. A unbranded phone that works better.
>>>>>>>> 3. Doesn't have any of the AT&T stuff on it as far as shareware
>>>>>>>> or
>>>
>>>>>>>> floatware or any other stuff to slow down the phone. 4. Getting
>>>>>>>> the phone as Nokia atended it to be put out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also by doing it this way; You will not be required to sign a
>>>>>>>> new contract and can switch cell providers when ever you like
>>>>>>>> and use the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> new phone on that network.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This will also give you the ability to choose from a good 20
>>>>>>>> plus Symbian Nokia phones that support the 850 and 1900 MHZ
>>>>>>>> bands that AT&T
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> uses.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Remember; All Symbian series 60 3rd Edition phones will work
>>>>>>>> with either Talks or MobileSpeak. And both screen readers will
>>>>>>>> give you
>>>
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 30 day trial license on request. That away you can trial both
>>>>>>>> screen
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> readers and see what one gives you the needed information you
>>>>>>>> require
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and what functions you use.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Their is no one best screen reader for most phones. It comes
>>>>>>>> down to
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> how you use it and what you want to do with the screen reader.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>>>>>>> sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Cy Selfridge" <cselfridge at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
>>>>>>>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:13 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Keith,
>>>>>>>>> I believe you are talking about www.letstalk.com Now, as I
>>>>>>>>> understand it, AT&T (Cingular) now will (should) offer you
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nokia N75 with the Mobile Speak. They should charge you $89 for
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> mobile speak and I think I saw the N75 from AT&T for $99? Now,
>>>>>>>>> (okay
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Stephen, step in here) I also think they will have one of their
>>>>>>>>> Windows based phones with the Microsoft version of Mobile Speak
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> well. Currently the Microsoft version of Mobile Speak is, in my
>>>>>>>>> opinion, a better deal because you can swap phones, upgrade
>>>>>>>>> phones
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> whatever *without* a charge. This is *not* currently true for
>>>>>>>>> the Symbian versions of Mobile Speak. HTH, Cy, the ancient Okie...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:52 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: blindphones at mosenexplosion.com
>>>>>>>>> Subject: New Phone and Service
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My cell contract is up and I would like to upgrade my phone and
>>>>>>>>> possibly service.  Currently, I have a Nokia 6620 with Talks.
>>>>>>>>> Cingular is my service provider.  We get 500 minutes  a month
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>
>>>>>>>>> $60
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (two phones).  It seems like there was a web site that offered
>>>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> deals on phones and service, but I don't recall the name.
>>>>>>>>> Anyone have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> recommendations?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you can recommend some phones to check out and if Talks is
>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> better screen reader, let me know.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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