New Phone and Service

Tue Apr 1 14:19:30 CDT 2008

Juanita

Well I would say you probably do not live in a 3G coverage area. Or you do not talk much on your 
phone or use it for internet/email.

On the average, I use my phone about 60-80 hours of Talk time per month. That is at least 2 hours 
per day. Then if I add in the EMail reading and responding on it; That bring up the time quit a bit.

In the case of the AT&T branded N75 being I live in a 3G coverage area; I would have to charge the 
phone at least one time per day from just talking on it. Then if we add in the internet/EMail, I 
would have to charge the phone two times per day.

The At&T N75 only gets about 2 hours of Talk time if you are in a AT&T 3G coverage area.

Now with my N73 that does not have the USA 3G bands on it; I can get at least two days with the 
usage described above. As far as Talk time on the N73; I talked on it 6 hours and 10 minutes this 
past weekend in one day before the battery went dead. If that was the AT&T N75, I would have had to 
charge it at least 3 times.

When I buy a phone; I expect to use it hard and I want the battery to last.

You can call AT&T and give them your zip code and they can tell you if you live in a 3G coverage 
area or not.

Signed: Stephen Giggar
sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
Skype: dr-phone.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jordmartin at suddenlink.net>
To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: New Phone and Service

>I can't comment on 3G but my N75 needs to be charged every 3 days.
>
> Juanita Martin
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Keith Christian" <keithchristian at roadrunner.com>
> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 9:38 AM
> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>
>
>>
>> Oh Stephen, please tell me this is an April Fools Joke!  If there is 3G
>> available in my area, the phone would need charging each day?  I was
>> hoping to charge less than my current phone not more!
>>
>> How does one find out if they are in or near a 3G area?  What is 3G for,
>> GPS?
>>
>> The phone sounds great from the descriptions I have read.  The draw
>> backs I have read about are mainly are the battery and the headphone
>> jack.  I did not hear that it would need to be charged several times a
>> day.  That would be very disappointing if that is the case.
>>
>> I was hoping to use it as an MP3 player, but I can't be charging it
>> several times a day!  Can anyone comment on battery life if not in a 3G
>> area?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Stephen
>> Giggar
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 6:21 AM
>> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: New Phone and Service
>>
>>
>> That is correct. If you get one of the new phones and it has the 20.x
>> firmware. You can not get it un branded. You will be stuck with all the
>> AT at T limitations and the short battery life if you happen to be in a 3g
>> coverage area. Another words, you may be charging the phone 2 or more
>> times a day.
>>
>> Produced on a Nokia N73 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
>> Signed by: Stephen Giggar sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>
>> - original message -
>> Subject: Re: New Phone and Service
>> From: "dennis" <dennisl0 at evenlink.com>
>> Date: 01/04/2008 12:58 PM
>>
>> i dont believe that is possible anymore unless you have the old firm
>> ware
>> stephen correct me please if i am wrong
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gabriel Millay" <gmillay at student.atmaine.com>
>> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:49 AM
>> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>>
>>
>>> Hi Keith what you could do is to buy the phone and then unbrand it
>>> yourself
>>> so you would only have to pay the forty nine dollars for it. Hope this
>>> helps.
>>>
>>> Gabe
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Keith
>>> Christian
>>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 23:59
>>> To: 'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'
>>> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>>>
>>> Hi Dennis,
>>>
>>> I called them, thanks for the number.  The phone unbranded is $400 and
>>
>>> the ATT version is $40.
>>>
>>> They told me there is no difference between the batteries and blue
>>> tooth connectivity.  However, the guy sounded like he just wanted to
>>> make me an offer I could not refuse.  I was very close to agreeing to
>>> the 2 year contract and the new phones though.  I'll need to think
>>> about it a bit more. My wife is needing a new phone too and it would
>>> be nice for us to have the same chargers and all that.
>>>
>>> I appreciate all the comments.
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of dennis
>>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 7:10 PM
>>> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: New Phone and Service
>>>
>>>
>>> keith the 49 dollar phone is branded to atnt / singular
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Keith Christian" <keithchristian at roadrunner.com>
>>> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
>>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 8:59 PM
>>> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>>>
>>>
>>>> Wow, that makes the letstalk deal even better.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>>>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of dennis
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 5:08 PM
>>>> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: New Phone and Service
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> keith i would outright buy the n75 rather then use the singular
>>>> version with the unbranded one you can use any blue tooth not true
>>>> with the singular version if i remember correctly also with the
>>>> unbranded one you get a longer battery life it's an all around better
>>
>>>> deal. dennis
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Keith Christian" <keithchristian at roadrunner.com>
>>>> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
>>>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 7:55 PM
>>>> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Cingular is offering the N75 for $199 with a 2 year contract.
>>>>> Letstalk.com is offering it for $49 with what looks like the same
>>>>> contract.  Have any of you had any experience with this phone?
>>>>> Would
>>>
>>>>> you consider a different phone and why?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Stephen and others on the list for your advice so far, it has
>>
>>>>> been helpful.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Keith
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>>>>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Stephen
>>
>>>>> Giggar
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 6:41 AM
>>>>> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
>>>>> Subject: Re: New Phone and Service
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Keith
>>>>>
>>>>> Hear is a list of some of the phone that support the 850 and 1900
>>>>> MHZ
>>>
>>>>> band from AT&T and these phones are quad band GSM Symbian phones.
>>>>> These phone will not be sold by AT&T but will work fine with your
>>>>> existing sim chip from your 6620. These as far as I know are still
>>>>> being produced.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nokia.
>>>>> 5700 Express Music,
>>>>> 6110 Navigator,
>>>>> 6120 Classic,
>>>>> 6121 Classic,
>>>>> 6290,
>>>>> E50 dash 1 and E50 dash 2,
>>>>> E51,
>>>>> E61,
>>>>> E61I,
>>>>> E65,
>>>>> E70 dash 2 (hard to find) unbranded,
>>>>> E90,
>>>>> N73,
>>>>> N76,
>>>>> N80IE,
>>>>> N81,
>>>>> N81-8GB,
>>>>> N82,
>>>>> N95 dash 1 (2100 MHZ 3G),
>>>>> N95 dash 2 ( 8GB 2100 MHZ 3G)
>>>>> N95 dash 3 (USA 3G),
>>>>> N95 dash 4 (USA 3g 8GB)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>>>> sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
>>>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Keith Christian" <keithchristian at roadrunner.com>
>>>>> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
>>>>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 9:12 PM
>>>>> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for your reply.  You mention many of the reasons why I am
>>
>>>>>> investigating a new phone and possibly a new provider.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a list of the 20 Symbian phones that may be of interest?
>>>>>> I
>>>
>>>>>> use a PACMate and it would be really cool to use the Braille
>>>>>> display
>>>
>>>>>> for sending text messages and browsing the internet, if that is
>>>>>> possible. If I can upgrade my Talks for less than buying Mobile
>>>>>> Speak
>>>>
>>>>>> that would certainly be a consideration.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I appreciate all the advice, thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>>>>>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> Stephen
>>>
>>>>>> Giggar
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 2:20 PM
>>>>>> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: New Phone and Service
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a hard question to answer and their is no correct answer.
>>>>>> Being you already have Talks; You may want to stay with what you
>>>>>> already have as far as the screen reader. As far as a phone; You
>>>>>> could get the N75 from At&T and keep your existing plan and sign up
>>>>> for
>>>>>> another two year contract to
>>>>>> get the phone cheaper. Or you can buy a different phone not carried
>>
>>>>>> by AT&T and have many more choices of phone to use and not just the
>>
>>>>>> one Symbian based phone that
>>>>> is
>>>>>> still being made by Nokia
>>>>>> and sold by AT&T.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would suggest that you buy the phone out side of AT&T and just
>>>>>> moving your existing Sim card from the 6620 to the new phone and
>>>>>> buying a Talks license transfer from a Talks dealer. This would
>>>>>> give
>>>
>>>>>> you. 1. A unlocked phone. 2. A unbranded phone that works better.
>>>>>> 3. Doesn't have any of the AT&T stuff on it as far as shareware or
>>>>>> floatware or any other stuff to slow down the phone.
>>>>>> 4. Getting the phone as Nokia atended it to be put out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also by doing it this way; You will not be required to sign a new
>>>>>> contract and can switch cell providers when ever you like and use
>>>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>>> new phone on that network.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This will also give you the ability to choose from a good 20 plus
>>>>>> Symbian Nokia phones that support the 850 and 1900 MHZ bands that
>>>>>> AT&T
>>>>>
>>>>>> uses.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Remember; All Symbian series 60 3rd Edition phones will work with
>>>>>> either Talks or MobileSpeak. And both screen readers will give you
>>>>>> a
>>>
>>>>>> 30 day trial license on request. That away you can trial both
>>>>>> screen
>>>
>>>>>> readers and see what one gives you the needed information you
>>>>>> require
>>>>
>>>>>> and what functions you use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Their is no one best screen reader for most phones. It comes down
>>>>>> to
>>>
>>>>>> how you use it and what you want to do with the screen reader.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>>>>> sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
>>>>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Cy Selfridge" <cselfridge at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
>>>>>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:13 PM
>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keith,
>>>>>>> I believe you are talking about www.letstalk.com
>>>>>>> Now, as I understand it, AT&T (Cingular) now will (should) offer
>>>>>>> you
>>>>
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nokia N75 with the Mobile Speak. They should charge you $89 for
>>>>>>> the
>>>
>>>>>>> mobile speak and I think I saw the N75 from AT&T for $99? Now,
>>>>>>> (okay
>>>>
>>>>>>> Stephen, step in here) I also think they will have one of their
>>>>>>> Windows based phones with the Microsoft version of Mobile Speak as
>>
>>>>>>> well. Currently the Microsoft version of Mobile Speak is, in my
>>>>>>> opinion, a better deal because you can swap phones, upgrade phones
>>
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>
>>>>>>> whatever *without* a charge. This is *not* currently true for the
>>>>>>> Symbian versions of Mobile Speak. HTH, Cy, the ancient Okie...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>>>>>>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Keith
>>
>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:52 AM
>>>>>>> To: blindphones at mosenexplosion.com
>>>>>>> Subject: New Phone and Service
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My cell contract is up and I would like to upgrade my phone and
>>>>>>> possibly service.  Currently, I have a Nokia 6620 with Talks.
>>>>>>> Cingular is my service provider.  We get 500 minutes  a month for
>>>>>>> $60
>>>>>
>>>>>>> (two phones).  It seems like there was a web site that offered
>>>>>>> great
>>>>
>>>>>>> deals on phones and service, but I don't recall the name.  Anyone
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> recommendations?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you can recommend some phones to check out and if Talks is
>>>>>>> still
>>>
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>
>>>>>>> better screen reader, let me know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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