New Phone and Service

Tue Apr 1 14:07:37 CDT 2008

No Simon the $1,600 does not include the phone. That is just the software only! So in either case; 
You would have to pay $1,600 USD for the Software and then buy the phone. So in case of the N82; 
That would be a total of about $2,100. Then you have to pay for the screen reader transfer license 
on top of that or buy the screen reader if you do not already have a phone that you can transfer the 
license from.

So that could cost you upwards of $2,400 USD if you got a new screen reader, New phone, and the 
KNFBReader.

Signed: Stephen Giggar
sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
Skype: dr-phone.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Simon" <simon at blinky-net.com>
To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'" <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 1:58 PM
Subject: RE: New Phone and Service

> Not much of a price reduction with the KNFb reader still over 1600 dollars.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Amir Soleimani
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2008 11:36 p.m.
> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
> Subject: Re: New Phone and Service
>
> Also, the upcoming Nokia 6220 Classic which would offer a 5MP camera with
> Xenon flash might be added to the list of supported handsets for KNFB
> Reader. It would probably be the cheapest KNFB Reader-supported handset with
> its estimated $300 price tag.
>
> Best,\
> Amir
> ----------
> Visit my blog at:
> http://mobilespace.wordpress.com
>
> On 4/1/2008 1:28 PM, Stephen Giggar wrote:
>> Keith
>>
>> The KNFBReader may be nice; But the price is what he didn't give. That
>> would cost you $1,600 USD. I think that is asking a lot just for the
>> software. Over 5 times the cost of the screen reader if you pay for it
>> outright. Over 4 times the cost of WayFinder Access. Over 3 times the cost
> of the cell phone. That should give people a idea of how over prices the
> KNFBReader is.
>>
>> Now to cell phones.
>> The N82 runs between $473 and up. The N73 I have seen from other web site
> running from $299 and up.
>> The N95-3 (USA 3G) $499 and up. The E51 for about $250 and up. The
>> N95-4 (USA 3G 8GB) Over $600 and up.
>>
>> Really; I think you can do better then the N75 unless you just want a flip
> phone.
>>
>> Hear is a few other sites you can check out for phones.
>> Mobile Planet. Do not pre order from them. Just buy what is in stock.
>> www.mobileplanet.com
>>
>> Mobile City Online.
>> www.mobilecityonline.com
>>
>> Popular Electronics
>> www.popularelect.com
>>
>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>> sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Keith Christian" <keithchristian at roadrunner.com>
>> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:03 PM
>> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>
>>> I thought that the N95 was the only phone it ran on.  I'll look into
>>> the
>>> N82 also.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
>>> Mosen
>>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 8:52 PM
>>> To: 'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'
>>> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi keith, if reading documents while on the go is important to you,
>>> you may want to consider the N82, which is an awesome phone and for
>>> now is the only one that supports the KNFB Reader Mobile.
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Keith
>>> Christian
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2008 12:56 p.m.
>>> To: 'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'
>>> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Cingular is offering the N75 for $199 with a 2 year contract.
>>> Letstalk.com is offering it for $49 with what looks like the same
>>> contract. Have any of you had any experience with this phone?  Would
>>> you consider a different phone and why?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Stephen and others on the list for your advice so far, it has
>>> been helpful.
>>>
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Stephen
>>> Giggar
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 6:41 AM
>>> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: New Phone and Service
>>>
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>> Hear is a list of some of the phone that support the 850 and 1900 MHZ
>>> band from AT&T and these phones are quad band GSM Symbian phones.
>>> These phone will not be sold by AT&T but will work fine with your
>>> existing sim chip from your 6620. These as far as I know are still being
> produced.
>>>
>>> Nokia.
>>> 5700 Express Music,
>>> 6110 Navigator,
>>> 6120 Classic,
>>> 6121 Classic,
>>> 6290,
>>> E50 dash 1 and E50 dash 2,
>>> E51,
>>> E61,
>>> E61I,
>>> E65,
>>> E70 dash 2 (hard to find) unbranded,
>>> E90,
>>> N73,
>>> N76,
>>> N80IE,
>>> N81,
>>> N81-8GB,
>>> N82,
>>> N95 dash 1 (2100 MHZ 3G),
>>> N95 dash 2 ( 8GB 2100 MHZ 3G)
>>> N95 dash 3 (USA 3G),
>>> N95 dash 4 (USA 3g 8GB)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>> sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Keith Christian" <keithchristian at roadrunner.com>
>>> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
>>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 9:12 PM
>>> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your reply.  You mention many of the reasons why I am
>>>> investigating a new phone and possibly a new provider.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is there a list of the 20 Symbian phones that may be of interest?  I
>>>> use a PACMate and it would be really cool to use the Braille display
>>>> for sending text messages and browsing the internet, if that is
>>>> possible. If I can upgrade my Talks for less than buying Mobile
>>>> Speak that would certainly be a consideration.
>>>>
>>>> I appreciate all the advice, thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>>>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Stephen
>>>> Giggar
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 2:20 PM
>>>> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: New Phone and Service
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>> This is a hard question to answer and their is no correct answer.
>>>> Being you already have Talks; You may want to stay with what you
>>>> already have as far as the screen reader. As far as a phone; You
>>>> could get the N75 from At&T and keep your existing plan and sign up
>>>>
>>> for
>>>
>>>> another two year contract to
>>>> get the phone cheaper. Or you can buy a different phone not carried
>>>> by
>>>>
>>>> AT&T and have many more choices of phone to use and not just the one
>>>> Symbian based phone that
>>>>
>>> is
>>>
>>>> still being made by Nokia
>>>> and sold by AT&T.
>>>>
>>>> I would suggest that you buy the phone out side of AT&T and just
>>>> moving your existing Sim card from the 6620 to the new phone and
>>>> buying a Talks license transfer from a Talks dealer. This would give
>>>> you.
>>>> 1. A unlocked phone.
>>>> 2. A unbranded phone that works better.
>>>> 3. Doesn't have any of the AT&T stuff on it as far as shareware or
>>>> floatware or any other stuff to slow down the phone.
>>>> 4. Getting the phone as Nokia atended it to be put out.
>>>>
>>>> Also by doing it this way; You will not be required to sign a new
>>>> contract and can switch cell providers when ever you like and use
>>>> the new phone on that network.
>>>>
>>>> This will also give you the ability to choose from a good 20 plus
>>>> Symbian Nokia phones that support the 850 and 1900 MHZ bands that
>>>> AT&T
>>>>
>>>> uses.
>>>>
>>>> Remember; All Symbian series 60 3rd Edition phones will work with
>>>> either Talks or MobileSpeak. And both screen readers will give you a
>>>> 30 day trial license on request. That away you can trial both screen
>>>> readers and see what one gives you the needed information you
>>>> require and what functions you use.
>>>>
>>>> Their is no one best screen reader for most phones. It comes down to
>>>> how you use it and what you want to do with the screen reader.
>>>>
>>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>>> sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
>>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Cy Selfridge" <cselfridge at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'"
>>>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:13 PM
>>>> Subject: RE: New Phone and Service
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Keith,
>>>>> I believe you are talking about www.letstalk.com Now, as I
>>>>> understand it, AT&T (Cingular) now will (should) offer you a
>>>>>
>>>>> Nokia N75 with the Mobile Speak. They should charge you $89 for the
>>>>> mobile speak and I think I saw the N75 from AT&T for $99? Now,
>>>>> (okay Stephen, step in here) I also think they will have one of
>>>>> their Windows based phones with the Microsoft version of Mobile
>>>>> Speak as well. Currently the Microsoft version of Mobile Speak is,
>>>>> in my opinion, a better deal because you can swap phones, upgrade
>>>>> phones or
>>>>>
>>>>> whatever *without* a charge. This is *not* currently true for the
>>>>> Symbian versions of Mobile Speak. HTH, Cy, the ancient Okie...
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
>>>>> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Keith
>>>>> Christian
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:52 AM
>>>>> To: blindphones at mosenexplosion.com
>>>>> Subject: New Phone and Service
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> My cell contract is up and I would like to upgrade my phone and
>>>>> possibly service.  Currently, I have a Nokia 6620 with Talks.
>>>>> Cingular is my service provider.  We get 500 minutes  a month for
>>>>> $60
>>>>>
>>>>> (two phones).  It seems like there was a web site that offered
>>>>> great deals on phones and service, but I don't recall the name.
>>>>> Anyone have
>>>>>
>>>>> recommendations?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you can recommend some phones to check out and if Talks is still
>>>>> a
>>>>>
>>>>> better screen reader, let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Keith
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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