Access to Word, Excel, PowerPoint, BRF, etc. RE: Nokia N82 First Impressions

Mon Dec 24 00:12:21 CST 2007

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Mobile Speak is a screen reader application installed on a Windows
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-----Original Message-----
From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
[mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 1:36 PM
To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
Subject: Re: Access to Word, Excel, PowerPoint, BRF,etc. RE: Nokia N82 First
Impressions

I'm sorry, is "Mobile Speak Smartphone" a hardware or a software?
Thanks!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roselle Ambubuyog" <roselle.ambubuyog at codefactory.es>
To: "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'" 
<blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
Sent: Sunday, 23 December, 2007 8:47 PM
Subject: Access to Word, Excel, PowerPoint, BRF,etc. RE: Nokia N82 First 
Impressions

> Hello,
>
> Note that Smartphones running Windows Mobile 6 are not as expensive as
> Pocket PC phones but also have Office Mobile applications. With Mobile 
> Speak
> Smartphone from Code Factory, you have access to Word, Excel and 
> PowerPoint
> files. Moreover, the latest version of Mobile Speak Smartphone (v2.0)
> enables you to read Braille formatted (BRF) files with or without a 
> Braille
> display, and to unpack Bookshare files on the Smartphone itself with no
> extra cost or separate installation. Note that Mobile Speak Smartphone is
> the first and only screen reader that provides full access to all three
> Office Mobile applications, and has a built-in Braille Reader for 
> Bookshare
> and BRF files.
>
> WM6 Smartphones available today include the Pantech Duo from AT&T which is
> part of their offer with just $89 for Mobile Speak Smartphone, the 
> Motorola
> Q9H and Samsung Blackjack II also from AT&T, the Motorola Q9M from Verizon
> Wireless, Motorola Q9C from Sprint, and the T-Mobile Shadow and T-Mobile
> Dash. Other WM6 Smartphones you can purchase from other vendors include 
> the
> HTC S710 / HTC Vox, HTC S620 / HTC Excalibur, and HTC S630 / HTC Cavalier.
> All these phones are officially supported by Mobile Speak Smartphone. You
> will find that Office Mobile applications on some WM6 Smartphones like the
> Motorola Q9 series have been replaced by other applications not readily
> accessible. Users of such devices have obtained an installer for Office
> Mobile from www.xda-developers.com and are successfully using Mobile Speak
> Smartphone to access this version of the Office Mobile suite.
>
> HTH,
> Roselle
> ________________________________________
> Roselle R. Ambubuyog
> Code factory, S.L.
> Moving accessibility forward!
> Mobile: +63 916 940-0007
> E-mail: roselle.ambubuyog at codefactory.es
> Website: http://www.codefactory.es
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com
> [mailto:blindphones-bounces at mosenexplosion.com] On Behalf Of golden
> Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 4:22 AM
> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Nokia N82 First Impressions
>
> yeah, i'm joining you Chris and others to suggest to Nuance to give due
> consideration to office accessibility in their next release of talks. i'm
> someone who likes to continue doing work even on the go. i'm pretty sure
> there are so many of you like me  out there. pocket PCs running 
> MobileSpeak
> pocket maybe the right solution  but how many of us can afford it?
>
> since most of us are running mobile phones with its growing trend of
> becoming more and more pact with PDA features, this aspect of 
> accessibility
> sure worth due priority.
>
> so, Nuance, we'd like to have this as your newyear gift for us in your 
> next
> release.
>
> may i humbly apologise for my broken English as i'm not a native speker of
> the language
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Christopher Chaltain" <cchaltain at austin.rr.com>
> To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" 
> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 9:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Nokia N82 First Impressions
>
>
> Again, another good post from Stephen that I couldn't have said better
> myself! :-) I will though, humbly, add just a few things! ;-) I agree
> golden it is a step backwards. I also had access to MS Office documents,
> both for reading and editing, on my Nokia 9290 Communicator. Although
> it's a step backwards for us, it isn't clear that it's the fault of the
> Talks developers. I suspect that either the applications you and I
> remember from our Communicators weren't QuickOffice or that QuickOffice
> changed significantly from that version to the current versions (i.e.
> QuickOffice 4.5 and 5.0) which are currently available. In addition to
> the work that may be required by the Talks developers, the QuickOffice
> developers may also have to get involved, which would again take time
> and effort from the Talks developers. I suspect it's not unlike what had
> to happen before Java applications became somewhat accessible on the
> desktop.
>
> I think we need to keep asking for this feature, from Talks and
> QuickOffice, but as Stephen said, this will have to be prioritized with
> everything else on their to do list. For example, I have a Nokia N75,
> and as much as I'd like to see the front panel start working with Talks,
> I'd rather have access to QuickOffice. I suspect though that accessing
> the front panel of the N75 is a much less challenging task than working
> with QuickOffice.
>
> It seems like our other option would be to use a Windows Mobile device
> with a screen reader from Mobile Speak or Hal. I'm assuming these screen
> readers work with the version of MS Office ported to the Windows Mobile
> platform.
>
> Stephen Giggar wrote:
>> golden
>>
>> You are forgetting the 9500 is a very old phone now days. You are also
>> forgetting that software
>> changes and this is true for Quick Office and Talks and MobileSpeak as
>> well. Again the screen reader
>> makers have higher priorities then to get Quick Office working. IE their
>> first or one of their first
>> priorities is to make the newer phones work with the basic programs so
>> that people have access to
>> the phones to start with. Then after that; They can go back and add other
>> programs to work with.
>> Example: MobileSpeak just added the ability for their screen reader to
>> work with the built in TTS
>> that are on all 3rd Edition phones. Talks has added the ability for you 
>> to
>
>> use the web menu option
>> for 3rd Edition phones. This is different then the services wap browser.
>>
>> So as you can see; The screen reader makers are trying to give people
>> access to the software that
>> most people would be able to take advance of.
>>
>> Then on top of that; The screen reader makers have to take in mind what
>> people want and try to
>> prioritize what is going to get worked on and when. Then while this is
>> going on; They have to try to
>> keep up with any bug reports and try to figure out if it is a problem 
>> with
>
>> the user doing things
>> incorrectly, the phone going bad or if it is a problem with the screen
>> reader or software that a
>> user may have put on the phone to start with or settings a user may have
>> changed that caused a
>> problem.
>>
>> So saying all of that! <smile> I'm certain QuickOffice to make it work is
>> on the list and will be
>> gotten to in it's own time. Just that their are higher priorities.
>>
>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>> sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "golden" <golden789 at gmail.com>
>> To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List"
>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 11:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: Nokia N82 First Impressions
>>
>>
>> hi Chris
>>
>> but i remember talks works reasonably well with office on cummunicator
>> 9500
>> running series 80 though.
>> i once had a chance to test it on my friend's phone and my first
>> impression
>> was positive. i could share word and excel documents between my pc/laptop
>> and the communicator wirelessly via bluetooth enabling me to resume my
>> work
>> even when travelling.
>>
>> regretably, this is not so with office on my E65. yes, i can transfer 
>> word
>> and excel and even powerpoint documents to the phone but unfortunately
>> talks
>> would fail me miserably. it wouldn't read anything other than the titles
>> of
>> the documents.
>> i'm seeing this as a step backward when office should become more and 
>> more
>> accessible IN THE NEW RELEASE OF TALKS
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Christopher Chaltain" <cchaltain at austin.rr.com>
>> To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List"
>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 11:26 AM
>> Subject: Nokia N82 First Impressions
>>
>>
>> I was waiting for someone else to answer, but I haven't seen a response.
>> Here's what I've found out.
>>
>> First, it doesn't look like the N82 ships with QuickOffice, even the
>> free viewer. I'm basing this on my review of the N82's specifications. I
>> don't have an N82 myself, and I could obviously be wrong about this. It
>> was my impression though that the N Series of Nokia phones would include
>> the free QuickOffice viewer.
>>
>> Second, it appears that QuickOffice will work on the N82. It's listed on
>> quickOffice's web site as a supported phone. I'm not able to find the
>> free viewer for download anywhere though. I'm sure it used to exist,
>> since I installed it on my Nokia N75 a little while ago. Maybe the free
>> viewer was removed when QuickOffice 5.0 came out recently.
>>
>> Finally, as I've posted in earlier messages, Talks--and I assume Mobile
>> Speak--don't work with QuickOffice 4.5, and according to the
>> representative I talked to at QuickOffice, it would be a few versions
>> before QuickOffice worked with Talks. I haven't been able to test
>> QuickOffice 5.0, since I don't see a free trial. Therefore, whether the
>> N82 supports QuickOffice or not would be irrelevant if you're a Talks
>> user.
>>
>> If anyone has any additional information, I'd be interested!
>>
>> golden wrote:
>>
>>> does it also support quick office such as word, sheet and presentation?
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Jonathan Mosen <mailto:jmosen at mosen.org>
>>> *To:* blindphones at googlegroups.com
>>> <mailto:blindphones at googlegroups.com>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, December 21, 2007 11:20 AM
>>> *Subject:* Nokia N82 First Impressions
>>>
>>> I received my Nokia N82 yesterday, so for those who are
>>> considering this phone, here are just a few thoughts. There are
>>> really well written, comprehensive reviews of all that this phone,
>>> which is a smaller, improved N95, can do, so I won't duplicate all
>>> of that here.
>>>
>>> But in brief, it has a 5 MP camera, GPS receiver, FM radio, HSDPA,
>>> and all the features you would expect from Symbian Third Edition.
>>>
>>> I loaded Mobile Speak onto the phone and was able to use Nokia's
>>> very cool Switch application to transfer contacts, notes,
>>> bookmarks, calendar items, call history and other items directly
>>> from my Nokia E61I. Nokia really have done a nice job with this,
>>> just pair the two phones, select what you want copied across, and
>>> leave it alone for a few minutes. Nothing could be simpler.
>>>
>>> You can definitely feel the fast processor in this tiny candy-bar
>>> style phone. The phone boots up in about 20% of the time it takes
>>> the E61I to load, quite staggering. Applications load really quickly.
>>>
>>> As someone who has not used a Series 60 Feature Pac 1 phone
>>> before, it's necessary to get used to the fact that submenu items
>>> can now also contain submenus under them. For example, when you go
>>> into the Tools menu, there is now a submenu available called
>>> utilities.
>>>
>>> Truphone have just released an N82-compatible version, so for
>>> those of you who use this brilliant service, you're not out of
>>> luck. Call quality is very good, and they have just extended their
>>> free calls deal until the end of February, meaning you can call
>>> numbers in over 40 countries for no cost at all. A good thing for
>>> getting in touch with family and friends over the holidays.
>>>
>>> But the main purpose for writing this is to offer a blindness
>>> perspective on the keypad. I was a little apprehensive about this
>>> phone, because the reviews are mixed on the keypad. Firstly, the
>>> actual number pad is one of the most clearly spaced Nokia phones I
>>> have seen. The buttons feel quite unconventional, but they are
>>> very widely spaced and well raised. The ability to feel these keys
>>> is far better than my first Symbian phone, the 6600, and indeed
>>> the 6630.
>>>
>>> Beyond the number pad is quite a different story though. On the
>>> extreme left and right of the unit's front are two very tiny
>>> vertical strips that are your call and end keys. Next to the call
>>> key is a large rectangular key that feels as if it's a single key.
>>> It isn't. Pressing the top of the key activates the left soft key,
>>> and the bottom of the key is the feature key, known in most phones
>>> as the menu key.
>>>
>>> The five-way key in the middle is very similar to that found on
>>> the 6630. It feels like a single key which you press in whatever
>>> direction you want to navigate, with the select button in the
>>> middle. I have found on a few occasions that I have navigated up
>>> or down when I wanted to press select, but I suspect I'll get used
>>> to it in time.
>>>
>>> On the right of the five-way key is what feels like a single
>>> button with a raised dot in the middle. Actually these are three
>>> keys. The top part activates the right soft key, the middle part
>>> with the dot is serving as Mobile Speak's key and I actually don't
>>> know what function this key performs normally. The bottom part of
>>> the key is the clear key.
>>>
>>> So from a blindness perspective, this is a phone of contrasts,
>>> with very nicely pronounced number pad buttons, and function keys
>>> that may cause issues for those with dexterity issues or whose
>>> finger sensitivity has been diminished due to diabetes. If you
>>> don't have an issue with dexterity though, this phone's
>>> performance, form factor and feature set are very hard to beat.
>>>
>>> Note to US readers though, that this phone does not support the US
>>> 3G frequencies. Although it is a quad band phone for voice, and
>>> will therefore work on any GSM network, it only supports the
>>> NON-US 3G, as well as HSDPA, sometimes known as 3.5 G. We have
>>> this here in New Zealand and data is coming down at a ridiculously
>>> fast pace for a cell phone.
>>>
>>> Also a note for talks users that the current released build does
>>> not support this phone although a fix is in the works, so Mobile
>>> Speak is the only screen reader that currently works with it.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps anyone considering the N82.
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>
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