Nokia N82 First Impressions

[simon]

yes it's the new communicator.
it replaces the 9500 device

At 10:54 a.m. 24/12/2007, you wrote:
>Is E90 by Nokia!
>Thanks!
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Stephen Giggar" <sgiggar at sbcglobal.net>
>To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>Sent: Sunday, 23 December, 2007 10:31 AM
>Subject: Re: Nokia N82 First Impressions
>
>
> > Simon
> >
> >>From my understanding; The E90 works with both Talks and MobileSpeak
> >>latest versions. Talks 3.50.4
> > and MobileSpeak 3.32.
> >
> > Signed: Stephen Giggar
> > sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
> > Skype: dr-phone.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "simon" <fogsi461 at student.otago.ac.nz>
> > To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List"
> > <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 3:42 AM
> > Subject: Re: Nokia N82 First Impressions
> >
> >
> >> has anyone got the e90 working with a screan reader yet, to
> >> a  statisfactory level?
> >>
> >>  because that is a device I'd like to get my hands on.
> >>
> >>  At 03:17 p.m. 23/12/2007, you wrote:
> >>>golden
> >>>
> >>>You are forgetting the 9500 is a very old phone now days. You are
> >>>also forgetting that software
> >>>changes and this is true for Quick Office and Talks and MobileSpeak
> >>>as well. Again the screen reader
> >>>makers have higher priorities then to get Quick Office working. IE
> >>>their first or one of their first
> >>>priorities is to make the newer phones work with the basic programs
> >>>so that people have access to
> >>>the phones to start with. Then after that; They can go back and add
> >>>other programs to work with.
> >>>Example: MobileSpeak just added the ability for their screen reader
> >>>to work with the built in TTS
> >>>that are on all 3rd Edition phones. Talks has added the ability for
> >>>you to use the web menu option
> >>>for 3rd Edition phones. This is different then the services wap browser.
> >>>
> >>>So as you can see; The screen reader makers are trying to give
> >>>people access to the software that
> >>>most people would be able to take advance of.
> >>>
> >>>Then on top of that; The screen reader makers have to take in mind
> >>>what people want and try to
> >>>prioritize what is going to get worked on and when. Then while this
> >>>is going on; They have to try to
> >>>keep up with any bug reports and try to figure out if it is a
> >>>problem with the user doing things
> >>>incorrectly, the phone going bad or if it is a problem with the
> >>>screen reader or software that a
> >>>user may have put on the phone to start with or settings a user may
> >>>have changed that caused a
> >>>problem.
> >>>
> >>>So saying all of that! <smile> I'm certain QuickOffice to make it
> >>>work is on the list and will be
> >>>gotten to in it's own time. Just that their are higher priorities.
> >>>
> >>>Signed: Stephen Giggar
> >>>sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
> >>>Skype: dr-phone.
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "golden" <golden789 at gmail.com>
> >>>To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List"
> >>><blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
> >>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 11:51 AM
> >>>Subject: Re: Nokia N82 First Impressions
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>hi Chris
> >>>
> >>>but i remember talks works reasonably well with office on cummunicator
> >>>9500
> >>>running series 80 though.
> >>>i once had a chance to test it on my friend's phone and my first
> >>>impression
> >>>was positive. i could share word and excel documents between my pc/laptop
> >>>and the communicator wirelessly via bluetooth enabling me to resume my
> >>>work
> >>>even when travelling.
> >>>
> >>>regretably, this is not so with office on my E65. yes, i can transfer
> >>>word
> >>>and excel and even powerpoint documents to the phone but unfortunately
> >>>talks
> >>>would fail me miserably. it wouldn't read anything other than the titles
> >>>of
> >>>the documents.
> >>>i'm seeing this as a step backward when office should become more and
> >>>more
> >>>accessible IN THE NEW RELEASE OF TALKS
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Christopher Chaltain" <cchaltain at austin.rr.com>
> >>>To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List"
> >>><blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
> >>>Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 11:26 AM
> >>>Subject: Nokia N82 First Impressions
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I was waiting for someone else to answer, but I haven't seen a response.
> >>>Here's what I've found out.
> >>>
> >>>First, it doesn't look like the N82 ships with QuickOffice, even the
> >>>free viewer. I'm basing this on my review of the N82's specifications. I
> >>>don't have an N82 myself, and I could obviously be wrong about this. It
> >>>was my impression though that the N Series of Nokia phones would include
> >>>the free QuickOffice viewer.
> >>>
> >>>Second, it appears that QuickOffice will work on the N82. It's listed on
> >>>quickOffice's web site as a supported phone. I'm not able to find the
> >>>free viewer for download anywhere though. I'm sure it used to exist,
> >>>since I installed it on my Nokia N75 a little while ago. Maybe the free
> >>>viewer was removed when QuickOffice 5.0 came out recently.
> >>>
> >>>Finally, as I've posted in earlier messages, Talks--and I assume Mobile
> >>>Speak--don't work with QuickOffice 4.5, and according to the
> >>>representative I talked to at QuickOffice, it would be a few versions
> >>>before QuickOffice worked with Talks. I haven't been able to test
> >>>QuickOffice 5.0, since I don't see a free trial. Therefore, whether the
> >>>N82 supports QuickOffice or not would be irrelevant if you're a Talks
> >>>user.
> >>>
> >>>If anyone has any additional information, I'd be interested!
> >>>
> >>>golden wrote:
> >>> > does it also support quick office such as word, sheet and
> >>> > presentation?
> >>> > thanks
> >>> >
> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>> > *From:* Jonathan Mosen <mailto:jmosen at mosen.org>
> >>> > *To:* blindphones at googlegroups.com
> >>> > <mailto:blindphones at googlegroups.com>
> >>> > *Sent:* Friday, December 21, 2007 11:20 AM
> >>> > *Subject:* Nokia N82 First Impressions
> >>> >
> >>> > I received my Nokia N82 yesterday, so for those who are
> >>> > considering this phone, here are just a few thoughts. There are
> >>> > really well written, comprehensive reviews of all that this phone,
> >>> > which is a smaller, improved N95, can do, so I won't duplicate all
> >>> > of that here.
> >>> >
> >>> > But in brief, it has a 5 MP camera, GPS receiver, FM radio, HSDPA,
> >>> > and all the features you would expect from Symbian Third Edition.
> >>> >
> >>> > I loaded Mobile Speak onto the phone and was able to use Nokia's
> >>> > very cool Switch application to transfer contacts, notes,
> >>> > bookmarks, calendar items, call history and other items directly
> >>> > from my Nokia E61I. Nokia really have done a nice job with this,
> >>> > just pair the two phones, select what you want copied across, and
> >>> > leave it alone for a few minutes. Nothing could be simpler.
> >>> >
> >>> > You can definitely feel the fast processor in this tiny candy-bar
> >>> > style phone. The phone boots up in about 20% of the time it takes
> >>> > the E61I to load, quite staggering. Applications load really quickly.
> >>> >
> >>> > As someone who has not used a Series 60 Feature Pac 1 phone
> >>> > before, it's necessary to get used to the fact that submenu items
> >>> > can now also contain submenus under them. For example, when you go
> >>> > into the Tools menu, there is now a submenu available called
> >>> > utilities.
> >>> >
> >>> > Truphone have just released an N82-compatible version, so for
> >>> > those of you who use this brilliant service, you're not out of
> >>> > luck. Call quality is very good, and they have just extended their
> >>> > free calls deal until the end of February, meaning you can call
> >>> > numbers in over 40 countries for no cost at all. A good thing for
> >>> > getting in touch with family and friends over the holidays.
> >>> >
> >>> > But the main purpose for writing this is to offer a blindness
> >>> > perspective on the keypad. I was a little apprehensive about this
> >>> > phone, because the reviews are mixed on the keypad. Firstly, the
> >>> > actual number pad is one of the most clearly spaced Nokia phones I
> >>> > have seen. The buttons feel quite unconventional, but they are
> >>> > very widely spaced and well raised. The ability to feel these keys
> >>> > is far better than my first Symbian phone, the 6600, and indeed
> >>> > the 6630.
> >>> >
> >>> > Beyond the number pad is quite a different story though. On the
> >>> > extreme left and right of the unit's front are two very tiny
> >>> > vertical strips that are your call and end keys. Next to the call
> >>> > key is a large rectangular key that feels as if it's a single key.
> >>> > It isn't. Pressing the top of the key activates the left soft key,
> >>> > and the bottom of the key is the feature key, known in most phones
> >>> > as the menu key.
> >>> >
> >>> > The five-way key in the middle is very similar to that found on
> >>> > the 6630. It feels like a single key which you press in whatever
> >>> > direction you want to navigate, with the select button in the
> >>> > middle. I have found on a few occasions that I have navigated up
> >>> > or down when I wanted to press select, but I suspect I'll get used
> >>> > to it in time.
> >>> >
> >>> > On the right of the five-way key is what feels like a single
> >>> > button with a raised dot in the middle. Actually these are three
> >>> > keys. The top part activates the right soft key, the middle part
> >>> > with the dot is serving as Mobile Speak's key and I actually don't
> >>> > know what function this key performs normally. The bottom part of
> >>> > the key is the clear key.
> >>> >
> >>> > So from a blindness perspective, this is a phone of contrasts,
> >>> > with very nicely pronounced number pad buttons, and function keys
> >>> > that may cause issues for those with dexterity issues or whose
> >>> > finger sensitivity has been diminished due to diabetes. If you
> >>> > don't have an issue with dexterity though, this phone's
> >>> > performance, form factor and feature set are very hard to beat.
> >>> >
> >>> > Note to US readers though, that this phone does not support the US
> >>> > 3G frequencies. Although it is a quad band phone for voice, and
> >>> > will therefore work on any GSM network, it only supports the
> >>> > NON-US 3G, as well as HSDPA, sometimes known as 3.5 G. We have
> >>> > this here in New Zealand and data is coming down at a ridiculously
> >>> > fast pace for a cell phone.
> >>> >
> >>> > Also a note for talks users that the current released build does
> >>> > not support this phone although a fix is in the works, so Mobile
> >>> > Speak is the only screen reader that currently works with it.
> >>> >
> >>> > Hope this helps anyone considering the N82.
> >>> >
> >>> > Jonathan
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
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> >>>
> >>>cchaltain at austin.rr.com
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