Nokia N82 First Impressions

Sun Dec 23 18:26:17 CST 2007

thanks stephen,
that's good to know. I'm liking the sound of this device, it seems to 
have everything in it.

At 07:31 a.m. 24/12/2007, you wrote:
>Simon
>
> >From my understanding; The E90 works with both Talks and 
> MobileSpeak latest versions. Talks 3.50.4
>and MobileSpeak 3.32.
>
>Signed: Stephen Giggar
>sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
>Skype: dr-phone.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "simon" <fogsi461 at student.otago.ac.nz>
>To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 3:42 AM
>Subject: Re: Nokia N82 First Impressions
>
>
> > has anyone got the e90 working with a screan reader yet, to
> > a  statisfactory level?
> >
> >  because that is a device I'd like to get my hands on.
> >
> >  At 03:17 p.m. 23/12/2007, you wrote:
> >>golden
> >>
> >>You are forgetting the 9500 is a very old phone now days. You are
> >>also forgetting that software
> >>changes and this is true for Quick Office and Talks and MobileSpeak
> >>as well. Again the screen reader
> >>makers have higher priorities then to get Quick Office working. IE
> >>their first or one of their first
> >>priorities is to make the newer phones work with the basic programs
> >>so that people have access to
> >>the phones to start with. Then after that; They can go back and add
> >>other programs to work with.
> >>Example: MobileSpeak just added the ability for their screen reader
> >>to work with the built in TTS
> >>that are on all 3rd Edition phones. Talks has added the ability for
> >>you to use the web menu option
> >>for 3rd Edition phones. This is different then the services wap browser.
> >>
> >>So as you can see; The screen reader makers are trying to give
> >>people access to the software that
> >>most people would be able to take advance of.
> >>
> >>Then on top of that; The screen reader makers have to take in mind
> >>what people want and try to
> >>prioritize what is going to get worked on and when. Then while this
> >>is going on; They have to try to
> >>keep up with any bug reports and try to figure out if it is a
> >>problem with the user doing things
> >>incorrectly, the phone going bad or if it is a problem with the
> >>screen reader or software that a
> >>user may have put on the phone to start with or settings a user may
> >>have changed that caused a
> >>problem.
> >>
> >>So saying all of that! <smile> I'm certain QuickOffice to make it
> >>work is on the list and will be
> >>gotten to in it's own time. Just that their are higher priorities.
> >>
> >>Signed: Stephen Giggar
> >>sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
> >>Skype: dr-phone.
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "golden" <golden789 at gmail.com>
> >>To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" 
> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
> >>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 11:51 AM
> >>Subject: Re: Nokia N82 First Impressions
> >>
> >>
> >>hi Chris
> >>
> >>but i remember talks works reasonably well with office on cummunicator 9500
> >>running series 80 though.
> >>i once had a chance to test it on my friend's phone and my first impression
> >>was positive. i could share word and excel documents between my pc/laptop
> >>and the communicator wirelessly via bluetooth enabling me to resume my work
> >>even when travelling.
> >>
> >>regretably, this is not so with office on my E65. yes, i can transfer word
> >>and excel and even powerpoint documents to the phone but 
> unfortunately talks
> >>would fail me miserably. it wouldn't read anything other than the titles of
> >>the documents.
> >>i'm seeing this as a step backward when office should become more and more
> >>accessible IN THE NEW RELEASE OF TALKS
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Christopher Chaltain" <cchaltain at austin.rr.com>
> >>To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" 
> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
> >>Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 11:26 AM
> >>Subject: Nokia N82 First Impressions
> >>
> >>
> >>I was waiting for someone else to answer, but I haven't seen a response.
> >>Here's what I've found out.
> >>
> >>First, it doesn't look like the N82 ships with QuickOffice, even the
> >>free viewer. I'm basing this on my review of the N82's specifications. I
> >>don't have an N82 myself, and I could obviously be wrong about this. It
> >>was my impression though that the N Series of Nokia phones would include
> >>the free QuickOffice viewer.
> >>
> >>Second, it appears that QuickOffice will work on the N82. It's listed on
> >>quickOffice's web site as a supported phone. I'm not able to find the
> >>free viewer for download anywhere though. I'm sure it used to exist,
> >>since I installed it on my Nokia N75 a little while ago. Maybe the free
> >>viewer was removed when QuickOffice 5.0 came out recently.
> >>
> >>Finally, as I've posted in earlier messages, Talks--and I assume Mobile
> >>Speak--don't work with QuickOffice 4.5, and according to the
> >>representative I talked to at QuickOffice, it would be a few versions
> >>before QuickOffice worked with Talks. I haven't been able to test
> >>QuickOffice 5.0, since I don't see a free trial. Therefore, whether the
> >>N82 supports QuickOffice or not would be irrelevant if you're a Talks user.
> >>
> >>If anyone has any additional information, I'd be interested!
> >>
> >>golden wrote:
> >> > does it also support quick office such as word, sheet and presentation?
> >> > thanks
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > *From:* Jonathan Mosen <mailto:jmosen at mosen.org>
> >> > *To:* blindphones at googlegroups.com
> >> > <mailto:blindphones at googlegroups.com>
> >> > *Sent:* Friday, December 21, 2007 11:20 AM
> >> > *Subject:* Nokia N82 First Impressions
> >> >
> >> > I received my Nokia N82 yesterday, so for those who are
> >> > considering this phone, here are just a few thoughts. There are
> >> > really well written, comprehensive reviews of all that this phone,
> >> > which is a smaller, improved N95, can do, so I won't duplicate all
> >> > of that here.
> >> >
> >> > But in brief, it has a 5 MP camera, GPS receiver, FM radio, HSDPA,
> >> > and all the features you would expect from Symbian Third Edition.
> >> >
> >> > I loaded Mobile Speak onto the phone and was able to use Nokia's
> >> > very cool Switch application to transfer contacts, notes,
> >> > bookmarks, calendar items, call history and other items directly
> >> > from my Nokia E61I. Nokia really have done a nice job with this,
> >> > just pair the two phones, select what you want copied across, and
> >> > leave it alone for a few minutes. Nothing could be simpler.
> >> >
> >> > You can definitely feel the fast processor in this tiny candy-bar
> >> > style phone. The phone boots up in about 20% of the time it takes
> >> > the E61I to load, quite staggering. Applications load really quickly.
> >> >
> >> > As someone who has not used a Series 60 Feature Pac 1 phone
> >> > before, it's necessary to get used to the fact that submenu items
> >> > can now also contain submenus under them. For example, when you go
> >> > into the Tools menu, there is now a submenu available called
> >> > utilities.
> >> >
> >> > Truphone have just released an N82-compatible version, so for
> >> > those of you who use this brilliant service, you're not out of
> >> > luck. Call quality is very good, and they have just extended their
> >> > free calls deal until the end of February, meaning you can call
> >> > numbers in over 40 countries for no cost at all. A good thing for
> >> > getting in touch with family and friends over the holidays.
> >> >
> >> > But the main purpose for writing this is to offer a blindness
> >> > perspective on the keypad. I was a little apprehensive about this
> >> > phone, because the reviews are mixed on the keypad. Firstly, the
> >> > actual number pad is one of the most clearly spaced Nokia phones I
> >> > have seen. The buttons feel quite unconventional, but they are
> >> > very widely spaced and well raised. The ability to feel these keys
> >> > is far better than my first Symbian phone, the 6600, and indeed
> >> > the 6630.
> >> >
> >> > Beyond the number pad is quite a different story though. On the
> >> > extreme left and right of the unit's front are two very tiny
> >> > vertical strips that are your call and end keys. Next to the call
> >> > key is a large rectangular key that feels as if it's a single key.
> >> > It isn't. Pressing the top of the key activates the left soft key,
> >> > and the bottom of the key is the feature key, known in most phones
> >> > as the menu key.
> >> >
> >> > The five-way key in the middle is very similar to that found on
> >> > the 6630. It feels like a single key which you press in whatever
> >> > direction you want to navigate, with the select button in the
> >> > middle. I have found on a few occasions that I have navigated up
> >> > or down when I wanted to press select, but I suspect I'll get used
> >> > to it in time.
> >> >
> >> > On the right of the five-way key is what feels like a single
> >> > button with a raised dot in the middle. Actually these are three
> >> > keys. The top part activates the right soft key, the middle part
> >> > with the dot is serving as Mobile Speak's key and I actually don't
> >> > know what function this key performs normally. The bottom part of
> >> > the key is the clear key.
> >> >
> >> > So from a blindness perspective, this is a phone of contrasts,
> >> > with very nicely pronounced number pad buttons, and function keys
> >> > that may cause issues for those with dexterity issues or whose
> >> > finger sensitivity has been diminished due to diabetes. If you
> >> > don't have an issue with dexterity though, this phone's
> >> > performance, form factor and feature set are very hard to beat.
> >> >
> >> > Note to US readers though, that this phone does not support the US
> >> > 3G frequencies. Although it is a quad band phone for voice, and
> >> > will therefore work on any GSM network, it only supports the
> >> > NON-US 3G, as well as HSDPA, sometimes known as 3.5 G. We have
> >> > this here in New Zealand and data is coming down at a ridiculously
> >> > fast pace for a cell phone.
> >> >
> >> > Also a note for talks users that the current released build does
> >> > not support this phone although a fix is in the works, so Mobile
> >> > Speak is the only screen reader that currently works with it.
> >> >
> >> > Hope this helps anyone considering the N82.
> >> >
> >> > Jonathan
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> >>Christopher
> >>
> >>cchaltain at austin.rr.com
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