Nokia N82 First Impressions

Sun Dec 23 16:02:17 CST 2007

Yes Fazil the E90 is made by Nokia.

Signed: Stephen Giggar
sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
Skype: dr-phone.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fazil M." <urdu786 at telus.net>
To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: Nokia N82 First Impressions 

> Is E90 by Nokia!
> Thanks!
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Stephen Giggar" <sgiggar at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
> Sent: Sunday, 23 December, 2007 10:31 AM
> Subject: Re: Nokia N82 First Impressions
> 
> 
>> Simon
>>
>>>From my understanding; The E90 works with both Talks and MobileSpeak 
>>>latest versions. Talks 3.50.4
>> and MobileSpeak 3.32.
>>
>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>> sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "simon" <fogsi461 at student.otago.ac.nz>
>> To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" 
>> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 3:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: Nokia N82 First Impressions
>>
>>
>>> has anyone got the e90 working with a screan reader yet, to
>>> a  statisfactory level?
>>>
>>>  because that is a device I'd like to get my hands on.
>>>
>>>  At 03:17 p.m. 23/12/2007, you wrote:
>>>>golden
>>>>
>>>>You are forgetting the 9500 is a very old phone now days. You are
>>>>also forgetting that software
>>>>changes and this is true for Quick Office and Talks and MobileSpeak
>>>>as well. Again the screen reader
>>>>makers have higher priorities then to get Quick Office working. IE
>>>>their first or one of their first
>>>>priorities is to make the newer phones work with the basic programs
>>>>so that people have access to
>>>>the phones to start with. Then after that; They can go back and add
>>>>other programs to work with.
>>>>Example: MobileSpeak just added the ability for their screen reader
>>>>to work with the built in TTS
>>>>that are on all 3rd Edition phones. Talks has added the ability for
>>>>you to use the web menu option
>>>>for 3rd Edition phones. This is different then the services wap browser.
>>>>
>>>>So as you can see; The screen reader makers are trying to give
>>>>people access to the software that
>>>>most people would be able to take advance of.
>>>>
>>>>Then on top of that; The screen reader makers have to take in mind
>>>>what people want and try to
>>>>prioritize what is going to get worked on and when. Then while this
>>>>is going on; They have to try to
>>>>keep up with any bug reports and try to figure out if it is a
>>>>problem with the user doing things
>>>>incorrectly, the phone going bad or if it is a problem with the
>>>>screen reader or software that a
>>>>user may have put on the phone to start with or settings a user may
>>>>have changed that caused a
>>>>problem.
>>>>
>>>>So saying all of that! <smile> I'm certain QuickOffice to make it
>>>>work is on the list and will be
>>>>gotten to in it's own time. Just that their are higher priorities.
>>>>
>>>>Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>>>sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
>>>>Skype: dr-phone.
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "golden" <golden789 at gmail.com>
>>>>To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" 
>>>><blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 11:51 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: Nokia N82 First Impressions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>hi Chris
>>>>
>>>>but i remember talks works reasonably well with office on cummunicator 
>>>>9500
>>>>running series 80 though.
>>>>i once had a chance to test it on my friend's phone and my first 
>>>>impression
>>>>was positive. i could share word and excel documents between my pc/laptop
>>>>and the communicator wirelessly via bluetooth enabling me to resume my 
>>>>work
>>>>even when travelling.
>>>>
>>>>regretably, this is not so with office on my E65. yes, i can transfer 
>>>>word
>>>>and excel and even powerpoint documents to the phone but unfortunately 
>>>>talks
>>>>would fail me miserably. it wouldn't read anything other than the titles 
>>>>of
>>>>the documents.
>>>>i'm seeing this as a step backward when office should become more and 
>>>>more
>>>>accessible IN THE NEW RELEASE OF TALKS
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Christopher Chaltain" <cchaltain at austin.rr.com>
>>>>To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" 
>>>><blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>>>>Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 11:26 AM
>>>>Subject: Nokia N82 First Impressions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I was waiting for someone else to answer, but I haven't seen a response.
>>>>Here's what I've found out.
>>>>
>>>>First, it doesn't look like the N82 ships with QuickOffice, even the
>>>>free viewer. I'm basing this on my review of the N82's specifications. I
>>>>don't have an N82 myself, and I could obviously be wrong about this. It
>>>>was my impression though that the N Series of Nokia phones would include
>>>>the free QuickOffice viewer.
>>>>
>>>>Second, it appears that QuickOffice will work on the N82. It's listed on
>>>>quickOffice's web site as a supported phone. I'm not able to find the
>>>>free viewer for download anywhere though. I'm sure it used to exist,
>>>>since I installed it on my Nokia N75 a little while ago. Maybe the free
>>>>viewer was removed when QuickOffice 5.0 came out recently.
>>>>
>>>>Finally, as I've posted in earlier messages, Talks--and I assume Mobile
>>>>Speak--don't work with QuickOffice 4.5, and according to the
>>>>representative I talked to at QuickOffice, it would be a few versions
>>>>before QuickOffice worked with Talks. I haven't been able to test
>>>>QuickOffice 5.0, since I don't see a free trial. Therefore, whether the
>>>>N82 supports QuickOffice or not would be irrelevant if you're a Talks 
>>>>user.
>>>>
>>>>If anyone has any additional information, I'd be interested!
>>>>
>>>>golden wrote:
>>>> > does it also support quick office such as word, sheet and 
>>>> > presentation?
>>>> > thanks
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > *From:* Jonathan Mosen <mailto:jmosen at mosen.org>
>>>> > *To:* blindphones at googlegroups.com
>>>> > <mailto:blindphones at googlegroups.com>
>>>> > *Sent:* Friday, December 21, 2007 11:20 AM
>>>> > *Subject:* Nokia N82 First Impressions
>>>> >
>>>> > I received my Nokia N82 yesterday, so for those who are
>>>> > considering this phone, here are just a few thoughts. There are
>>>> > really well written, comprehensive reviews of all that this phone,
>>>> > which is a smaller, improved N95, can do, so I won't duplicate all
>>>> > of that here.
>>>> >
>>>> > But in brief, it has a 5 MP camera, GPS receiver, FM radio, HSDPA,
>>>> > and all the features you would expect from Symbian Third Edition.
>>>> >
>>>> > I loaded Mobile Speak onto the phone and was able to use Nokia's
>>>> > very cool Switch application to transfer contacts, notes,
>>>> > bookmarks, calendar items, call history and other items directly
>>>> > from my Nokia E61I. Nokia really have done a nice job with this,
>>>> > just pair the two phones, select what you want copied across, and
>>>> > leave it alone for a few minutes. Nothing could be simpler.
>>>> >
>>>> > You can definitely feel the fast processor in this tiny candy-bar
>>>> > style phone. The phone boots up in about 20% of the time it takes
>>>> > the E61I to load, quite staggering. Applications load really quickly.
>>>> >
>>>> > As someone who has not used a Series 60 Feature Pac 1 phone
>>>> > before, it's necessary to get used to the fact that submenu items
>>>> > can now also contain submenus under them. For example, when you go
>>>> > into the Tools menu, there is now a submenu available called
>>>> > utilities.
>>>> >
>>>> > Truphone have just released an N82-compatible version, so for
>>>> > those of you who use this brilliant service, you're not out of
>>>> > luck. Call quality is very good, and they have just extended their
>>>> > free calls deal until the end of February, meaning you can call
>>>> > numbers in over 40 countries for no cost at all. A good thing for
>>>> > getting in touch with family and friends over the holidays.
>>>> >
>>>> > But the main purpose for writing this is to offer a blindness
>>>> > perspective on the keypad. I was a little apprehensive about this
>>>> > phone, because the reviews are mixed on the keypad. Firstly, the
>>>> > actual number pad is one of the most clearly spaced Nokia phones I
>>>> > have seen. The buttons feel quite unconventional, but they are
>>>> > very widely spaced and well raised. The ability to feel these keys
>>>> > is far better than my first Symbian phone, the 6600, and indeed
>>>> > the 6630.
>>>> >
>>>> > Beyond the number pad is quite a different story though. On the
>>>> > extreme left and right of the unit's front are two very tiny
>>>> > vertical strips that are your call and end keys. Next to the call
>>>> > key is a large rectangular key that feels as if it's a single key.
>>>> > It isn't. Pressing the top of the key activates the left soft key,
>>>> > and the bottom of the key is the feature key, known in most phones
>>>> > as the menu key.
>>>> >
>>>> > The five-way key in the middle is very similar to that found on
>>>> > the 6630. It feels like a single key which you press in whatever
>>>> > direction you want to navigate, with the select button in the
>>>> > middle. I have found on a few occasions that I have navigated up
>>>> > or down when I wanted to press select, but I suspect I'll get used
>>>> > to it in time.
>>>> >
>>>> > On the right of the five-way key is what feels like a single
>>>> > button with a raised dot in the middle. Actually these are three
>>>> > keys. The top part activates the right soft key, the middle part
>>>> > with the dot is serving as Mobile Speak's key and I actually don't
>>>> > know what function this key performs normally. The bottom part of
>>>> > the key is the clear key.
>>>> >
>>>> > So from a blindness perspective, this is a phone of contrasts,
>>>> > with very nicely pronounced number pad buttons, and function keys
>>>> > that may cause issues for those with dexterity issues or whose
>>>> > finger sensitivity has been diminished due to diabetes. If you
>>>> > don't have an issue with dexterity though, this phone's
>>>> > performance, form factor and feature set are very hard to beat.
>>>> >
>>>> > Note to US readers though, that this phone does not support the US
>>>> > 3G frequencies. Although it is a quad band phone for voice, and
>>>> > will therefore work on any GSM network, it only supports the
>>>> > NON-US 3G, as well as HSDPA, sometimes known as 3.5 G. We have
>>>> > this here in New Zealand and data is coming down at a ridiculously
>>>> > fast pace for a cell phone.
>>>> >
>>>> > Also a note for talks users that the current released build does
>>>> > not support this phone although a fix is in the works, so Mobile
>>>> > Speak is the only screen reader that currently works with it.
>>>> >
>>>> > Hope this helps anyone considering the N82.
>>>> >
>>>> > Jonathan
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
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>>>>
>>>>cchaltain at austin.rr.com
>>>>
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