Nokia N82 First Impressions

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Thanks!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephen Giggar" <sgiggar at sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
Sent: Sunday, 23 December, 2007 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: Nokia N82 First Impressions


> Simon
>
>>From my understanding; The E90 works with both Talks and MobileSpeak 
>>latest versions. Talks 3.50.4
> and MobileSpeak 3.32.
>
> Signed: Stephen Giggar
> sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
> Skype: dr-phone.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "simon" <fogsi461 at student.otago.ac.nz>
> To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" 
> <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 3:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Nokia N82 First Impressions
>
>
>> has anyone got the e90 working with a screan reader yet, to
>> a  statisfactory level?
>>
>>  because that is a device I'd like to get my hands on.
>>
>>  At 03:17 p.m. 23/12/2007, you wrote:
>>>golden
>>>
>>>You are forgetting the 9500 is a very old phone now days. You are
>>>also forgetting that software
>>>changes and this is true for Quick Office and Talks and MobileSpeak
>>>as well. Again the screen reader
>>>makers have higher priorities then to get Quick Office working. IE
>>>their first or one of their first
>>>priorities is to make the newer phones work with the basic programs
>>>so that people have access to
>>>the phones to start with. Then after that; They can go back and add
>>>other programs to work with.
>>>Example: MobileSpeak just added the ability for their screen reader
>>>to work with the built in TTS
>>>that are on all 3rd Edition phones. Talks has added the ability for
>>>you to use the web menu option
>>>for 3rd Edition phones. This is different then the services wap browser.
>>>
>>>So as you can see; The screen reader makers are trying to give
>>>people access to the software that
>>>most people would be able to take advance of.
>>>
>>>Then on top of that; The screen reader makers have to take in mind
>>>what people want and try to
>>>prioritize what is going to get worked on and when. Then while this
>>>is going on; They have to try to
>>>keep up with any bug reports and try to figure out if it is a
>>>problem with the user doing things
>>>incorrectly, the phone going bad or if it is a problem with the
>>>screen reader or software that a
>>>user may have put on the phone to start with or settings a user may
>>>have changed that caused a
>>>problem.
>>>
>>>So saying all of that! <smile> I'm certain QuickOffice to make it
>>>work is on the list and will be
>>>gotten to in it's own time. Just that their are higher priorities.
>>>
>>>Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>>sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
>>>Skype: dr-phone.
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "golden" <golden789 at gmail.com>
>>>To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" 
>>><blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 11:51 AM
>>>Subject: Re: Nokia N82 First Impressions
>>>
>>>
>>>hi Chris
>>>
>>>but i remember talks works reasonably well with office on cummunicator 
>>>9500
>>>running series 80 though.
>>>i once had a chance to test it on my friend's phone and my first 
>>>impression
>>>was positive. i could share word and excel documents between my pc/laptop
>>>and the communicator wirelessly via bluetooth enabling me to resume my 
>>>work
>>>even when travelling.
>>>
>>>regretably, this is not so with office on my E65. yes, i can transfer 
>>>word
>>>and excel and even powerpoint documents to the phone but unfortunately 
>>>talks
>>>would fail me miserably. it wouldn't read anything other than the titles 
>>>of
>>>the documents.
>>>i'm seeing this as a step backward when office should become more and 
>>>more
>>>accessible IN THE NEW RELEASE OF TALKS
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Christopher Chaltain" <cchaltain at austin.rr.com>
>>>To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" 
>>><blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>>>Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 11:26 AM
>>>Subject: Nokia N82 First Impressions
>>>
>>>
>>>I was waiting for someone else to answer, but I haven't seen a response.
>>>Here's what I've found out.
>>>
>>>First, it doesn't look like the N82 ships with QuickOffice, even the
>>>free viewer. I'm basing this on my review of the N82's specifications. I
>>>don't have an N82 myself, and I could obviously be wrong about this. It
>>>was my impression though that the N Series of Nokia phones would include
>>>the free QuickOffice viewer.
>>>
>>>Second, it appears that QuickOffice will work on the N82. It's listed on
>>>quickOffice's web site as a supported phone. I'm not able to find the
>>>free viewer for download anywhere though. I'm sure it used to exist,
>>>since I installed it on my Nokia N75 a little while ago. Maybe the free
>>>viewer was removed when QuickOffice 5.0 came out recently.
>>>
>>>Finally, as I've posted in earlier messages, Talks--and I assume Mobile
>>>Speak--don't work with QuickOffice 4.5, and according to the
>>>representative I talked to at QuickOffice, it would be a few versions
>>>before QuickOffice worked with Talks. I haven't been able to test
>>>QuickOffice 5.0, since I don't see a free trial. Therefore, whether the
>>>N82 supports QuickOffice or not would be irrelevant if you're a Talks 
>>>user.
>>>
>>>If anyone has any additional information, I'd be interested!
>>>
>>>golden wrote:
>>> > does it also support quick office such as word, sheet and 
>>> > presentation?
>>> > thanks
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > *From:* Jonathan Mosen <mailto:jmosen at mosen.org>
>>> > *To:* blindphones at googlegroups.com
>>> > <mailto:blindphones at googlegroups.com>
>>> > *Sent:* Friday, December 21, 2007 11:20 AM
>>> > *Subject:* Nokia N82 First Impressions
>>> >
>>> > I received my Nokia N82 yesterday, so for those who are
>>> > considering this phone, here are just a few thoughts. There are
>>> > really well written, comprehensive reviews of all that this phone,
>>> > which is a smaller, improved N95, can do, so I won't duplicate all
>>> > of that here.
>>> >
>>> > But in brief, it has a 5 MP camera, GPS receiver, FM radio, HSDPA,
>>> > and all the features you would expect from Symbian Third Edition.
>>> >
>>> > I loaded Mobile Speak onto the phone and was able to use Nokia's
>>> > very cool Switch application to transfer contacts, notes,
>>> > bookmarks, calendar items, call history and other items directly
>>> > from my Nokia E61I. Nokia really have done a nice job with this,
>>> > just pair the two phones, select what you want copied across, and
>>> > leave it alone for a few minutes. Nothing could be simpler.
>>> >
>>> > You can definitely feel the fast processor in this tiny candy-bar
>>> > style phone. The phone boots up in about 20% of the time it takes
>>> > the E61I to load, quite staggering. Applications load really quickly.
>>> >
>>> > As someone who has not used a Series 60 Feature Pac 1 phone
>>> > before, it's necessary to get used to the fact that submenu items
>>> > can now also contain submenus under them. For example, when you go
>>> > into the Tools menu, there is now a submenu available called
>>> > utilities.
>>> >
>>> > Truphone have just released an N82-compatible version, so for
>>> > those of you who use this brilliant service, you're not out of
>>> > luck. Call quality is very good, and they have just extended their
>>> > free calls deal until the end of February, meaning you can call
>>> > numbers in over 40 countries for no cost at all. A good thing for
>>> > getting in touch with family and friends over the holidays.
>>> >
>>> > But the main purpose for writing this is to offer a blindness
>>> > perspective on the keypad. I was a little apprehensive about this
>>> > phone, because the reviews are mixed on the keypad. Firstly, the
>>> > actual number pad is one of the most clearly spaced Nokia phones I
>>> > have seen. The buttons feel quite unconventional, but they are
>>> > very widely spaced and well raised. The ability to feel these keys
>>> > is far better than my first Symbian phone, the 6600, and indeed
>>> > the 6630.
>>> >
>>> > Beyond the number pad is quite a different story though. On the
>>> > extreme left and right of the unit's front are two very tiny
>>> > vertical strips that are your call and end keys. Next to the call
>>> > key is a large rectangular key that feels as if it's a single key.
>>> > It isn't. Pressing the top of the key activates the left soft key,
>>> > and the bottom of the key is the feature key, known in most phones
>>> > as the menu key.
>>> >
>>> > The five-way key in the middle is very similar to that found on
>>> > the 6630. It feels like a single key which you press in whatever
>>> > direction you want to navigate, with the select button in the
>>> > middle. I have found on a few occasions that I have navigated up
>>> > or down when I wanted to press select, but I suspect I'll get used
>>> > to it in time.
>>> >
>>> > On the right of the five-way key is what feels like a single
>>> > button with a raised dot in the middle. Actually these are three
>>> > keys. The top part activates the right soft key, the middle part
>>> > with the dot is serving as Mobile Speak's key and I actually don't
>>> > know what function this key performs normally. The bottom part of
>>> > the key is the clear key.
>>> >
>>> > So from a blindness perspective, this is a phone of contrasts,
>>> > with very nicely pronounced number pad buttons, and function keys
>>> > that may cause issues for those with dexterity issues or whose
>>> > finger sensitivity has been diminished due to diabetes. If you
>>> > don't have an issue with dexterity though, this phone's
>>> > performance, form factor and feature set are very hard to beat.
>>> >
>>> > Note to US readers though, that this phone does not support the US
>>> > 3G frequencies. Although it is a quad band phone for voice, and
>>> > will therefore work on any GSM network, it only supports the
>>> > NON-US 3G, as well as HSDPA, sometimes known as 3.5 G. We have
>>> > this here in New Zealand and data is coming down at a ridiculously
>>> > fast pace for a cell phone.
>>> >
>>> > Also a note for talks users that the current released build does
>>> > not support this phone although a fix is in the works, so Mobile
>>> > Speak is the only screen reader that currently works with it.
>>> >
>>> > Hope this helps anyone considering the N82.
>>> >
>>> > Jonathan
>>> >
>>> >
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>>>Christopher
>>>
>>>cchaltain at austin.rr.com
>>>
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