Nokia N82 First Impressions

Sun Dec 23 12:31:37 CST 2007

Simon

>From my understanding; The E90 works with both Talks and MobileSpeak latest versions. Talks 3.50.4 
and MobileSpeak 3.32.

Signed: Stephen Giggar
sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
Skype: dr-phone.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "simon" <fogsi461 at student.otago.ac.nz>
To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 3:42 AM
Subject: Re: Nokia N82 First Impressions

> has anyone got the e90 working with a screan reader yet, to
> a  statisfactory level?
>
>  because that is a device I'd like to get my hands on.
>
>  At 03:17 p.m. 23/12/2007, you wrote:
>>golden
>>
>>You are forgetting the 9500 is a very old phone now days. You are
>>also forgetting that software
>>changes and this is true for Quick Office and Talks and MobileSpeak
>>as well. Again the screen reader
>>makers have higher priorities then to get Quick Office working. IE
>>their first or one of their first
>>priorities is to make the newer phones work with the basic programs
>>so that people have access to
>>the phones to start with. Then after that; They can go back and add
>>other programs to work with.
>>Example: MobileSpeak just added the ability for their screen reader
>>to work with the built in TTS
>>that are on all 3rd Edition phones. Talks has added the ability for
>>you to use the web menu option
>>for 3rd Edition phones. This is different then the services wap browser.
>>
>>So as you can see; The screen reader makers are trying to give
>>people access to the software that
>>most people would be able to take advance of.
>>
>>Then on top of that; The screen reader makers have to take in mind
>>what people want and try to
>>prioritize what is going to get worked on and when. Then while this
>>is going on; They have to try to
>>keep up with any bug reports and try to figure out if it is a
>>problem with the user doing things
>>incorrectly, the phone going bad or if it is a problem with the
>>screen reader or software that a
>>user may have put on the phone to start with or settings a user may
>>have changed that caused a
>>problem.
>>
>>So saying all of that! <smile> I'm certain QuickOffice to make it
>>work is on the list and will be
>>gotten to in it's own time. Just that their are higher priorities.
>>
>>Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
>>Skype: dr-phone.
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "golden" <golden789 at gmail.com>
>>To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 11:51 AM
>>Subject: Re: Nokia N82 First Impressions
>>
>>
>>hi Chris
>>
>>but i remember talks works reasonably well with office on cummunicator 9500
>>running series 80 though.
>>i once had a chance to test it on my friend's phone and my first impression
>>was positive. i could share word and excel documents between my pc/laptop
>>and the communicator wirelessly via bluetooth enabling me to resume my work
>>even when travelling.
>>
>>regretably, this is not so with office on my E65. yes, i can transfer word
>>and excel and even powerpoint documents to the phone but unfortunately talks
>>would fail me miserably. it wouldn't read anything other than the titles of
>>the documents.
>>i'm seeing this as a step backward when office should become more and more
>>accessible IN THE NEW RELEASE OF TALKS
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Christopher Chaltain" <cchaltain at austin.rr.com>
>>To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>>Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 11:26 AM
>>Subject: Nokia N82 First Impressions
>>
>>
>>I was waiting for someone else to answer, but I haven't seen a response.
>>Here's what I've found out.
>>
>>First, it doesn't look like the N82 ships with QuickOffice, even the
>>free viewer. I'm basing this on my review of the N82's specifications. I
>>don't have an N82 myself, and I could obviously be wrong about this. It
>>was my impression though that the N Series of Nokia phones would include
>>the free QuickOffice viewer.
>>
>>Second, it appears that QuickOffice will work on the N82. It's listed on
>>quickOffice's web site as a supported phone. I'm not able to find the
>>free viewer for download anywhere though. I'm sure it used to exist,
>>since I installed it on my Nokia N75 a little while ago. Maybe the free
>>viewer was removed when QuickOffice 5.0 came out recently.
>>
>>Finally, as I've posted in earlier messages, Talks--and I assume Mobile
>>Speak--don't work with QuickOffice 4.5, and according to the
>>representative I talked to at QuickOffice, it would be a few versions
>>before QuickOffice worked with Talks. I haven't been able to test
>>QuickOffice 5.0, since I don't see a free trial. Therefore, whether the
>>N82 supports QuickOffice or not would be irrelevant if you're a Talks user.
>>
>>If anyone has any additional information, I'd be interested!
>>
>>golden wrote:
>> > does it also support quick office such as word, sheet and presentation?
>> > thanks
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > *From:* Jonathan Mosen <mailto:jmosen at mosen.org>
>> > *To:* blindphones at googlegroups.com
>> > <mailto:blindphones at googlegroups.com>
>> > *Sent:* Friday, December 21, 2007 11:20 AM
>> > *Subject:* Nokia N82 First Impressions
>> >
>> > I received my Nokia N82 yesterday, so for those who are
>> > considering this phone, here are just a few thoughts. There are
>> > really well written, comprehensive reviews of all that this phone,
>> > which is a smaller, improved N95, can do, so I won't duplicate all
>> > of that here.
>> >
>> > But in brief, it has a 5 MP camera, GPS receiver, FM radio, HSDPA,
>> > and all the features you would expect from Symbian Third Edition.
>> >
>> > I loaded Mobile Speak onto the phone and was able to use Nokia's
>> > very cool Switch application to transfer contacts, notes,
>> > bookmarks, calendar items, call history and other items directly
>> > from my Nokia E61I. Nokia really have done a nice job with this,
>> > just pair the two phones, select what you want copied across, and
>> > leave it alone for a few minutes. Nothing could be simpler.
>> >
>> > You can definitely feel the fast processor in this tiny candy-bar
>> > style phone. The phone boots up in about 20% of the time it takes
>> > the E61I to load, quite staggering. Applications load really quickly.
>> >
>> > As someone who has not used a Series 60 Feature Pac 1 phone
>> > before, it's necessary to get used to the fact that submenu items
>> > can now also contain submenus under them. For example, when you go
>> > into the Tools menu, there is now a submenu available called
>> > utilities.
>> >
>> > Truphone have just released an N82-compatible version, so for
>> > those of you who use this brilliant service, you're not out of
>> > luck. Call quality is very good, and they have just extended their
>> > free calls deal until the end of February, meaning you can call
>> > numbers in over 40 countries for no cost at all. A good thing for
>> > getting in touch with family and friends over the holidays.
>> >
>> > But the main purpose for writing this is to offer a blindness
>> > perspective on the keypad. I was a little apprehensive about this
>> > phone, because the reviews are mixed on the keypad. Firstly, the
>> > actual number pad is one of the most clearly spaced Nokia phones I
>> > have seen. The buttons feel quite unconventional, but they are
>> > very widely spaced and well raised. The ability to feel these keys
>> > is far better than my first Symbian phone, the 6600, and indeed
>> > the 6630.
>> >
>> > Beyond the number pad is quite a different story though. On the
>> > extreme left and right of the unit's front are two very tiny
>> > vertical strips that are your call and end keys. Next to the call
>> > key is a large rectangular key that feels as if it's a single key.
>> > It isn't. Pressing the top of the key activates the left soft key,
>> > and the bottom of the key is the feature key, known in most phones
>> > as the menu key.
>> >
>> > The five-way key in the middle is very similar to that found on
>> > the 6630. It feels like a single key which you press in whatever
>> > direction you want to navigate, with the select button in the
>> > middle. I have found on a few occasions that I have navigated up
>> > or down when I wanted to press select, but I suspect I'll get used
>> > to it in time.
>> >
>> > On the right of the five-way key is what feels like a single
>> > button with a raised dot in the middle. Actually these are three
>> > keys. The top part activates the right soft key, the middle part
>> > with the dot is serving as Mobile Speak's key and I actually don't
>> > know what function this key performs normally. The bottom part of
>> > the key is the clear key.
>> >
>> > So from a blindness perspective, this is a phone of contrasts,
>> > with very nicely pronounced number pad buttons, and function keys
>> > that may cause issues for those with dexterity issues or whose
>> > finger sensitivity has been diminished due to diabetes. If you
>> > don't have an issue with dexterity though, this phone's
>> > performance, form factor and feature set are very hard to beat.
>> >
>> > Note to US readers though, that this phone does not support the US
>> > 3G frequencies. Although it is a quad band phone for voice, and
>> > will therefore work on any GSM network, it only supports the
>> > NON-US 3G, as well as HSDPA, sometimes known as 3.5 G. We have
>> > this here in New Zealand and data is coming down at a ridiculously
>> > fast pace for a cell phone.
>> >
>> > Also a note for talks users that the current released build does
>> > not support this phone although a fix is in the works, so Mobile
>> > Speak is the only screen reader that currently works with it.
>> >
>> > Hope this helps anyone considering the N82.
>> >
>> > Jonathan
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>>Christopher
>>
>>cchaltain at austin.rr.com
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