Nokia N82 First Impressions

[simon]

has anyone got the e90 working with a screan reader yet, to 
a  statisfactory level?

  because that is a device I'd like to get my hands on.

  At 03:17 p.m. 23/12/2007, you wrote:
>golden
>
>You are forgetting the 9500 is a very old phone now days. You are 
>also forgetting that software
>changes and this is true for Quick Office and Talks and MobileSpeak 
>as well. Again the screen reader
>makers have higher priorities then to get Quick Office working. IE 
>their first or one of their first
>priorities is to make the newer phones work with the basic programs 
>so that people have access to
>the phones to start with. Then after that; They can go back and add 
>other programs to work with.
>Example: MobileSpeak just added the ability for their screen reader 
>to work with the built in TTS
>that are on all 3rd Edition phones. Talks has added the ability for 
>you to use the web menu option
>for 3rd Edition phones. This is different then the services wap browser.
>
>So as you can see; The screen reader makers are trying to give 
>people access to the software that
>most people would be able to take advance of.
>
>Then on top of that; The screen reader makers have to take in mind 
>what people want and try to
>prioritize what is going to get worked on and when. Then while this 
>is going on; They have to try to
>keep up with any bug reports and try to figure out if it is a 
>problem with the user doing things
>incorrectly, the phone going bad or if it is a problem with the 
>screen reader or software that a
>user may have put on the phone to start with or settings a user may 
>have changed that caused a
>problem.
>
>So saying all of that! <smile> I'm certain QuickOffice to make it 
>work is on the list and will be
>gotten to in it's own time. Just that their are higher priorities.
>
>Signed: Stephen Giggar
>sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
>Skype: dr-phone.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "golden" <golden789 at gmail.com>
>To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 11:51 AM
>Subject: Re: Nokia N82 First Impressions
>
>
>hi Chris
>
>but i remember talks works reasonably well with office on cummunicator 9500
>running series 80 though.
>i once had a chance to test it on my friend's phone and my first impression
>was positive. i could share word and excel documents between my pc/laptop
>and the communicator wirelessly via bluetooth enabling me to resume my work
>even when travelling.
>
>regretably, this is not so with office on my E65. yes, i can transfer word
>and excel and even powerpoint documents to the phone but unfortunately talks
>would fail me miserably. it wouldn't read anything other than the titles of
>the documents.
>i'm seeing this as a step backward when office should become more and more
>accessible IN THE NEW RELEASE OF TALKS
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Christopher Chaltain" <cchaltain at austin.rr.com>
>To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
>Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 11:26 AM
>Subject: Nokia N82 First Impressions
>
>
>I was waiting for someone else to answer, but I haven't seen a response.
>Here's what I've found out.
>
>First, it doesn't look like the N82 ships with QuickOffice, even the
>free viewer. I'm basing this on my review of the N82's specifications. I
>don't have an N82 myself, and I could obviously be wrong about this. It
>was my impression though that the N Series of Nokia phones would include
>the free QuickOffice viewer.
>
>Second, it appears that QuickOffice will work on the N82. It's listed on
>quickOffice's web site as a supported phone. I'm not able to find the
>free viewer for download anywhere though. I'm sure it used to exist,
>since I installed it on my Nokia N75 a little while ago. Maybe the free
>viewer was removed when QuickOffice 5.0 came out recently.
>
>Finally, as I've posted in earlier messages, Talks--and I assume Mobile
>Speak--don't work with QuickOffice 4.5, and according to the
>representative I talked to at QuickOffice, it would be a few versions
>before QuickOffice worked with Talks. I haven't been able to test
>QuickOffice 5.0, since I don't see a free trial. Therefore, whether the
>N82 supports QuickOffice or not would be irrelevant if you're a Talks user.
>
>If anyone has any additional information, I'd be interested!
>
>golden wrote:
> > does it also support quick office such as word, sheet and presentation?
> > thanks
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Jonathan Mosen <mailto:jmosen at mosen.org>
> > *To:* blindphones at googlegroups.com
> > <mailto:blindphones at googlegroups.com>
> > *Sent:* Friday, December 21, 2007 11:20 AM
> > *Subject:* Nokia N82 First Impressions
> >
> > I received my Nokia N82 yesterday, so for those who are
> > considering this phone, here are just a few thoughts. There are
> > really well written, comprehensive reviews of all that this phone,
> > which is a smaller, improved N95, can do, so I won't duplicate all
> > of that here.
> >
> > But in brief, it has a 5 MP camera, GPS receiver, FM radio, HSDPA,
> > and all the features you would expect from Symbian Third Edition.
> >
> > I loaded Mobile Speak onto the phone and was able to use Nokia's
> > very cool Switch application to transfer contacts, notes,
> > bookmarks, calendar items, call history and other items directly
> > from my Nokia E61I. Nokia really have done a nice job with this,
> > just pair the two phones, select what you want copied across, and
> > leave it alone for a few minutes. Nothing could be simpler.
> >
> > You can definitely feel the fast processor in this tiny candy-bar
> > style phone. The phone boots up in about 20% of the time it takes
> > the E61I to load, quite staggering. Applications load really quickly.
> >
> > As someone who has not used a Series 60 Feature Pac 1 phone
> > before, it's necessary to get used to the fact that submenu items
> > can now also contain submenus under them. For example, when you go
> > into the Tools menu, there is now a submenu available called
> > utilities.
> >
> > Truphone have just released an N82-compatible version, so for
> > those of you who use this brilliant service, you're not out of
> > luck. Call quality is very good, and they have just extended their
> > free calls deal until the end of February, meaning you can call
> > numbers in over 40 countries for no cost at all. A good thing for
> > getting in touch with family and friends over the holidays.
> >
> > But the main purpose for writing this is to offer a blindness
> > perspective on the keypad. I was a little apprehensive about this
> > phone, because the reviews are mixed on the keypad. Firstly, the
> > actual number pad is one of the most clearly spaced Nokia phones I
> > have seen. The buttons feel quite unconventional, but they are
> > very widely spaced and well raised. The ability to feel these keys
> > is far better than my first Symbian phone, the 6600, and indeed
> > the 6630.
> >
> > Beyond the number pad is quite a different story though. On the
> > extreme left and right of the unit's front are two very tiny
> > vertical strips that are your call and end keys. Next to the call
> > key is a large rectangular key that feels as if it's a single key.
> > It isn't. Pressing the top of the key activates the left soft key,
> > and the bottom of the key is the feature key, known in most phones
> > as the menu key.
> >
> > The five-way key in the middle is very similar to that found on
> > the 6630. It feels like a single key which you press in whatever
> > direction you want to navigate, with the select button in the
> > middle. I have found on a few occasions that I have navigated up
> > or down when I wanted to press select, but I suspect I'll get used
> > to it in time.
> >
> > On the right of the five-way key is what feels like a single
> > button with a raised dot in the middle. Actually these are three
> > keys. The top part activates the right soft key, the middle part
> > with the dot is serving as Mobile Speak's key and I actually don't
> > know what function this key performs normally. The bottom part of
> > the key is the clear key.
> >
> > So from a blindness perspective, this is a phone of contrasts,
> > with very nicely pronounced number pad buttons, and function keys
> > that may cause issues for those with dexterity issues or whose
> > finger sensitivity has been diminished due to diabetes. If you
> > don't have an issue with dexterity though, this phone's
> > performance, form factor and feature set are very hard to beat.
> >
> > Note to US readers though, that this phone does not support the US
> > 3G frequencies. Although it is a quad band phone for voice, and
> > will therefore work on any GSM network, it only supports the
> > NON-US 3G, as well as HSDPA, sometimes known as 3.5 G. We have
> > this here in New Zealand and data is coming down at a ridiculously
> > fast pace for a cell phone.
> >
> > Also a note for talks users that the current released build does
> > not support this phone although a fix is in the works, so Mobile
> > Speak is the only screen reader that currently works with it.
> >
> > Hope this helps anyone considering the N82.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
> >
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>Christopher
>
>cchaltain at austin.rr.com
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