Nokia N82 First Impressions

Sat Dec 22 20:17:24 CST 2007

golden

You are forgetting the 9500 is a very old phone now days. You are also forgetting that software 
changes and this is true for Quick Office and Talks and MobileSpeak as well. Again the screen reader 
makers have higher priorities then to get Quick Office working. IE their first or one of their first 
priorities is to make the newer phones work with the basic programs so that people have access to 
the phones to start with. Then after that; They can go back and add other programs to work with. 
Example: MobileSpeak just added the ability for their screen reader to work with the built in TTS 
that are on all 3rd Edition phones. Talks has added the ability for you to use the web menu option 
for 3rd Edition phones. This is different then the services wap browser.

So as you can see; The screen reader makers are trying to give people access to the software that 
most people would be able to take advance of.

Then on top of that; The screen reader makers have to take in mind what people want and try to 
prioritize what is going to get worked on and when. Then while this is going on; They have to try to 
keep up with any bug reports and try to figure out if it is a problem with the user doing things 
incorrectly, the phone going bad or if it is a problem with the screen reader or software that a 
user may have put on the phone to start with or settings a user may have changed that caused a 
problem.

So saying all of that! <smile> I'm certain QuickOffice to make it work is on the list and will be 
gotten to in it's own time. Just that their are higher priorities.

Signed: Stephen Giggar
sgiggar at sbcglobal.net
Skype: dr-phone.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "golden" <golden789 at gmail.com>
To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: Nokia N82 First Impressions

hi Chris

but i remember talks works reasonably well with office on cummunicator 9500
running series 80 though.
i once had a chance to test it on my friend's phone and my first impression
was positive. i could share word and excel documents between my pc/laptop
and the communicator wirelessly via bluetooth enabling me to resume my work
even when travelling.

regretably, this is not so with office on my E65. yes, i can transfer word
and excel and even powerpoint documents to the phone but unfortunately talks
would fail me miserably. it wouldn't read anything other than the titles of
the documents.
i'm seeing this as a step backward when office should become more and more
accessible IN THE NEW RELEASE OF TALKS

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" <cchaltain at austin.rr.com>
To: "The Accessible Phones Discussion List" <blindphones at mosenexplosion.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 11:26 AM
Subject: Nokia N82 First Impressions

I was waiting for someone else to answer, but I haven't seen a response.
Here's what I've found out.

First, it doesn't look like the N82 ships with QuickOffice, even the
free viewer. I'm basing this on my review of the N82's specifications. I
don't have an N82 myself, and I could obviously be wrong about this. It
was my impression though that the N Series of Nokia phones would include
the free QuickOffice viewer.

Second, it appears that QuickOffice will work on the N82. It's listed on
quickOffice's web site as a supported phone. I'm not able to find the
free viewer for download anywhere though. I'm sure it used to exist,
since I installed it on my Nokia N75 a little while ago. Maybe the free
viewer was removed when QuickOffice 5.0 came out recently.

Finally, as I've posted in earlier messages, Talks--and I assume Mobile
Speak--don't work with QuickOffice 4.5, and according to the
representative I talked to at QuickOffice, it would be a few versions
before QuickOffice worked with Talks. I haven't been able to test
QuickOffice 5.0, since I don't see a free trial. Therefore, whether the
N82 supports QuickOffice or not would be irrelevant if you're a Talks user.

If anyone has any additional information, I'd be interested!

golden wrote:
> does it also support quick office such as word, sheet and presentation?
> thanks
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Jonathan Mosen <mailto:jmosen at mosen.org>
> *To:* blindphones at googlegroups.com
> <mailto:blindphones at googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, December 21, 2007 11:20 AM
> *Subject:* Nokia N82 First Impressions
>
> I received my Nokia N82 yesterday, so for those who are
> considering this phone, here are just a few thoughts. There are
> really well written, comprehensive reviews of all that this phone,
> which is a smaller, improved N95, can do, so I won’t duplicate all
> of that here.
>
> But in brief, it has a 5 MP camera, GPS receiver, FM radio, HSDPA,
> and all the features you would expect from Symbian Third Edition.
>
> I loaded Mobile Speak onto the phone and was able to use Nokia’s
> very cool Switch application to transfer contacts, notes,
> bookmarks, calendar items, call history and other items directly
> from my Nokia E61I. Nokia really have done a nice job with this,
> just pair the two phones, select what you want copied across, and
> leave it alone for a few minutes. Nothing could be simpler.
>
> You can definitely feel the fast processor in this tiny candy-bar
> style phone. The phone boots up in about 20% of the time it takes
> the E61I to load, quite staggering. Applications load really quickly.
>
> As someone who has not used a Series 60 Feature Pac 1 phone
> before, it’s necessary to get used to the fact that submenu items
> can now also contain submenus under them. For example, when you go
> into the Tools menu, there is now a submenu available called
> utilities.
>
> Truphone have just released an N82-compatible version, so for
> those of you who use this brilliant service, you’re not out of
> luck. Call quality is very good, and they have just extended their
> free calls deal until the end of February, meaning you can call
> numbers in over 40 countries for no cost at all. A good thing for
> getting in touch with family and friends over the holidays.
>
> But the main purpose for writing this is to offer a blindness
> perspective on the keypad. I was a little apprehensive about this
> phone, because the reviews are mixed on the keypad. Firstly, the
> actual number pad is one of the most clearly spaced Nokia phones I
> have seen. The buttons feel quite unconventional, but they are
> very widely spaced and well raised. The ability to feel these keys
> is far better than my first Symbian phone, the 6600, and indeed
> the 6630.
>
> Beyond the number pad is quite a different story though. On the
> extreme left and right of the unit’s front are two very tiny
> vertical strips that are your call and end keys. Next to the call
> key is a large rectangular key that feels as if it’s a single key.
> It isn’t. Pressing the top of the key activates the left soft key,
> and the bottom of the key is the feature key, known in most phones
> as the menu key.
>
> The five-way key in the middle is very similar to that found on
> the 6630. It feels like a single key which you press in whatever
> direction you want to navigate, with the select button in the
> middle. I have found on a few occasions that I have navigated up
> or down when I wanted to press select, but I suspect I’ll get used
> to it in time.
>
> On the right of the five-way key is what feels like a single
> button with a raised dot in the middle. Actually these are three
> keys. The top part activates the right soft key, the middle part
> with the dot is serving as Mobile Speak’s key and I actually don’t
> know what function this key performs normally. The bottom part of
> the key is the clear key.
>
> So from a blindness perspective, this is a phone of contrasts,
> with very nicely pronounced number pad buttons, and function keys
> that may cause issues for those with dexterity issues or whose
> finger sensitivity has been diminished due to diabetes. If you
> don’t have an issue with dexterity though, this phone’s
> performance, form factor and feature set are very hard to beat.
>
> Note to US readers though, that this phone does not support the US
> 3G frequencies. Although it is a quad band phone for voice, and
> will therefore work on any GSM network, it only supports the
> NON-US 3G, as well as HSDPA, sometimes known as 3.5 G. We have
> this here in New Zealand and data is coming down at a ridiculously
> fast pace for a cell phone.
>
> Also a note for talks users that the current released build does
> not support this phone although a fix is in the works, so Mobile
> Speak is the only screen reader that currently works with it.
>
> Hope this helps anyone considering the N82.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
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